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Old September 5, 2019, 03:17 PM   #1
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Whaddaya do when you want to shoot but not own a pistol?

Whaddaya do when you want to shoot but not own a pistol?

You talk a friend into buying one.

That's what I did yesterday,,,
I "helped" a friend pick out a compact 9mm.

I own the first iteration of the Ruger LC9,,,
It's said it has a terrible trigger but I never thought so.

Recently I've heard about the new-ish Ruger EC9s,,,
Striker fired with fixed sights milled directly into the slide.

Supposedly it has a much better trigger than mine,,,
I've been wanting to try one for a while.

Now I really didn't talk him into getting it just so I could shoot it,,,
We had several different brands of guns out on the counter.

No sir, he picked out the Ruger all by himself,,,
I have no guilt about this at all.

We're going to the range this weekend,,,
I'll be anxious to give it a try.

Even if the trigger is much better than my LC9,,,
I'll not sell it to get an EC9s because I'm very used to my gun.

I have the Twisted Industries .22 rimfire adapter for my LC9,,,
The sights are finally putting the .22 in the same place as the 9mm.

I've practiced with my gun a lot and shoot it well enough to suit me,,,
But I do have a college friend who is graduating this year,,,
At right at $200.00 That might be her graduation gift.

I'll give my opinion/report early next week.

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Old September 5, 2019, 03:33 PM   #2
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As long as you do so in such a way that you're not committing a straw purchase, just to clarify for anyone reading.

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Old September 5, 2019, 03:48 PM   #3
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I would drive down to the "big" City 30 miles south and go to the modern indoor range that rents a wide/changing selection of pistols. That may not be a resonable option for some.
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Old September 5, 2019, 04:51 PM   #4
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I use one of the wife's pistols... if she lets me.
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Old September 5, 2019, 05:07 PM   #5
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It simply doesn't happen for some people. It's a shame.

Nothing within a few hundred miles that has an indoor range with test guns. In fact, there are many places around here that won't even let you handle it without having trigger locks.

More unfortunately I don't have a friend who would even buy me a coke, much less let me try out his pistol. Picture all of the people running around in america who don't have the sort of friend who owns guns who would go the length of actually taking an acquaintance to a range with a gun to try it out. I'd guess that there are very few people out here on this board that would even do it except for very close friends. There will be some, but there are people here who wouldn't even show their collection to anyone but closest friends.

Gun owners should go out of their way to assist gun noobs. Many people out there who would consider carrying if they only had someone to walk them through the process.
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Old September 5, 2019, 05:12 PM   #6
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As long as you do so in such a way that you're not committing a straw purchase, just to clarify for anyone reading.
The original statement leads the reader to think that is what happened but detailed reading reveals that the OP wanted to try out a certain pistol, didn't want to buy it himself, so he convinced his friend to buy it so that he could try it for free.

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Old September 5, 2019, 05:35 PM   #7
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I'm in agreement with Zeke, go to a range that rents a variety of firearms and hopefully they will have the one you are thinking of purchasing. Great way to make an informed decision.
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Old September 5, 2019, 06:53 PM   #8
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I have a good friend that likes to shoot and I make a point to buy different guns than what he has because that doubles what both of us get to experience shooting. It's a great way to "expand your horizons".
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Old September 5, 2019, 07:21 PM   #9
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You talk a friend into buying one.
That is probably the last thing, I would do as an option. Perhaps you need to rephrase this post and yes, someone may see this as a straw purchase. Another thing I don't do "anymore" is loan out a firearm to a friend to shoot. I've had too many bad experiences with how they came back to me.
If a friend want to shoot one of my pistols, we both go to the range. …

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Whaddaya do when you want to shoot but not own a pistol?
If I want to shoot a particular handgun, I go the a local range and rent one. I figure that it's my problem and not my fiends. Why don't you own a pistol??

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Old September 6, 2019, 10:59 AM   #10
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As long as you do so in such a way that you're not committing a straw purchase, just to clarify for anyone reading.
How could this be even remotely a straw purchase?

I didn't buy the gun,,,
My friend did.

He bought it for himself,,,
Not for me.

I just helped him pick it out.

~sheesh~

Doesn't anyone recognize humorous satire?

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Old September 6, 2019, 11:18 AM   #11
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Aarond you just stigmatized those without senses of humor! Bigot!



That smiling face means I am joking, poking fun, making jest, need I go further?
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Old September 6, 2019, 11:35 AM   #12
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I recognize satire. I also recognize that satire doesn't always translate particularly well in text and that clarifying you're not talking about a straw purchase doesn't hurt anyone.

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Old September 6, 2019, 11:44 AM   #13
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A straw purchase is one made by somebody legally allowed to possess/buy a firearm for somebody who is not. "I own the first iteration of the Ruger LC9" clearly indicates this is not the case.
Now, if you were to join a shooting club, the chances of you being able to shoot stuff, assorted, without buying said stuff, go up a long way.
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Old September 6, 2019, 11:50 AM   #14
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A straw purchase is one made by somebody legally allowed to possess/buy a firearm for somebody who is not. "I own the first iteration of the Ruger LC9" clearly indicates this is not the case.
Now, if you were to join a shooting club, the chances of you being able to shoot stuff, assorted, without buying said stuff, go up a long way.
That's not the entire situation. If you are purchasing a firearm for someone other than yourself and that firearm is not a gift it can be ruled a straw purchase. There was such a case in the US.

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Old September 6, 2019, 12:09 PM   #15
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I think too many here are still missing the essence of Aarond's original story. Let me present an analogy that may clear things up.

> I love to hunt.
> I can't afford to buy myself a nice piece of hunting property.
> I convince my wealthy buddy that he should buy a 1000 acre timber tract as an investment he can pass to his grandchildren.
> Even though it will be a sacrifice, I'll be a good friend and keep the deer and pigs from overpopulating his timber.
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Old September 6, 2019, 12:23 PM   #16
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Thak you Doyle,,,

That's exactly the situation I attempted to relate,,,
I guess I need to work on my delivery.

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Old September 6, 2019, 04:26 PM   #17
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That's exactly the situation I attempted to relate,,,
I guess I need to work on my delivery.

Aarond

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Aarond,

Don't worry about it. I read it and knew that you were kidding. I think this sort of thing is why no one hangs out here anymore...
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Old September 6, 2019, 04:27 PM   #18
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Aarond,

Don't worry about it. I read it and knew that you were kidding. I think this sort of thing is why no one hangs out here anymore...
Lol, if people don't hang here anymore because of some as mild as what is in this thread, then they would have left a long time ago.

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Old September 6, 2019, 04:42 PM   #19
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Kidding a kidder

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Doesn't anyone recognize humorous satire?
I guess I missed the humor in this one and if I'm suppose to take it that way, then any futures posts, should be taken with a grain of salt or at least suspect. ….

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Old September 6, 2019, 07:30 PM   #20
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I grab my shotgun and a flat of shells and head to my sporting clays club
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Old September 8, 2019, 09:18 AM   #21
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I understood the OP's intent, but one LGS near me has gotten so paranoid about straw purchases that the guy behind the counter got snippy when I tried to help my brother pick a gun. It ended when I wanted to examine one of the guns. He asked "Who's buying this, you or him?" and refused. My brother told him, "Neither of us, now" and we left.
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Old September 8, 2019, 09:31 AM   #22
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With gun stores now being sued for selling a gun (legally) to someone who then goes a shooting spree, I don't blame them for being paranoid.
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Old August 5, 2020, 12:00 PM   #23
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By the way,,,

I forgot to mention,,,
The trigger on the LC9s is much lighter than my original LC9.

Honestly, it's so much lighter that I hesitate to call it "better".

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Old August 9, 2020, 03:11 PM   #24
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Being the first 9mm I bought and being use to revolvers the LC9 has held up well. I do wish it had a better ( shorter stroke) trigger but after practice it is just fine. Will not be getting another 9mm as Sig was gracious enough to send me a new P226 in exchange for a broken P232. Bless them, but I do miss the P232. The best pointing gun I've shot.
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Old August 9, 2020, 04:48 PM   #25
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My friend in CO asked me which 9mm to buy; I told him to enroll in the NRA Basic Handgun Safety course then ask the instructor. He took the course and the instructor said to borrow or rent every 9mm you can lay your hands on & pick the one you shoot the best. Same advice I got from my instructor when I took the course years ago.
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