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Old April 1, 2019, 07:36 PM   #26
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I like the budget modular triggers, like CMC. But I also have two Rise Armament ones, a Saber from James Madison Tactical. Also a POF. I have an RRA 2 stage match but I can't feel two stages. It has no travel, just apply 4 lbs of pressure and it goes bang. I have the $87 LaRue but haven't installed it in anything yet, also a Hyperfire, but again, unused so far. I watch out for sales and try not to pay more than $115 - $140 tops. I would never pay $350 - $400 for a trigger, just can't do it.
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Old April 2, 2019, 12:39 PM   #27
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Four of my ARs have the RR National Match, Varmint model. Three have the POF, three have the PNT from BCM, and the last two have PSA's EPT FCG.
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Old April 2, 2019, 03:24 PM   #28
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Hands down best under a 100 bucks is the Larue, I have 3. Personally, I think its pretty darn close to the Gieselle SSA trigger, but not as good as my SSA-E.

The CMC and POF drop in triggers are not even in the same league as Larue but yet cost more.
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Old April 2, 2019, 07:16 PM   #29
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The CMC and POF drop in triggers are not even in the same league as Larue but yet cost more.
I know at least three shooters that bought POFs over LaRue MBTs, strictly because they dislike 2-stage triggers. They paid more just to avoid the take-up.
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Old April 3, 2019, 07:59 AM   #30
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They must go (or went) on sale at some time because I have a POF lol. I don’t recall the price, but it must’ve been a lower price choice at the point that I bought lol, or it probably wouldn’t be in my inventory. That being said, sometimes you just gotta pony up the dough and pay for what you want. I don’t remember wanting a POF or looking for one in particular, so it must have shown up in an offer somewhere.
It’s a good trigger, no matter what I actually paid for it.
Like I said earlier, it’s the only cassette type trigger I own, but I know what a good trigger is.
I have no reason to doubt that any of the other upgraded triggers that I haven’t tried aren’t good either.
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Old April 5, 2019, 05:44 AM   #31
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A SSTAT from Aim Surplus is $90, drops in easily and is a crisp 3.5 lbs.
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Old April 6, 2019, 02:42 PM   #32
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Thanks for the info guys. I learned alot from reading the replies. I went ahead and went back to what I know and that is CMC. I have always been happy with them in the past. They are higher than some suggested. They are self contained and are 3.5 lbs. Single stage. Very easy to install.
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Old April 6, 2019, 04:29 PM   #33
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Idk of any true drop in triggers lower in price than CMC, but standard triggers (which aren't hard to install btw) can come in a lot cheaper. I have a single stage Timney drop in, but if I get a two stage, I'm getting the Ruger 452. Good price and the grip that comes with it is far better than the cheap mil-spec ones.
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Old April 6, 2019, 08:59 PM   #34
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Never knew Ruger made triggers. The 452 seems similar to LaRue's MBT. But the MBT is less expensive at $87.
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Old April 7, 2019, 06:52 AM   #35
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Ruger 452 LINK
I see 0.065 - 0.070” creep in that chart...


Rise Armament RA140 LINK
About 0.035”

Triggertech looks closer to 0.010”.

Creep minimization is why you go to a cassette type trigger. A 2 stage is nice as you get lots of creep for maximum safety, but a crisp feel to the second stage. I prefer a good cassette type single stage.
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Old April 7, 2019, 01:59 PM   #36
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Ruger 452 LINK
I see 0.065 - 0.070” creep in that chart...


Rise Armament RA140 LINK
About 0.035”

Triggertech looks closer to 0.010”.

Creep minimization is why you go to a cassette type trigger. A 2 stage is nice as you get lots of creep for maximum safety, but a crisp feel to the second stage. I prefer a good cassette type single stage.
The Rise doesn't have a good pistol grip tho, the Ruger does and that grip is worth at least $10 if it were sold on its own. I've seen the Ruger 452 on sale for under $100, so we're talking a difference of about $40 between the triggers when factoring in the price of the Ruger grip.

It's a good deal for those building a new AR or upgrading their budget build on a good 2 stage trigger.
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Old April 9, 2019, 11:28 AM   #37
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Maybe I need to explain myself a bit...The Ruger appears to be a std 4.5lb 2 stage trigger in a disposable housing with a grip. Nice for selling triggers in the store! The RS 140 is a single stage cassette trigger rated at 4.0 lbs.

PRICE
Brownells has the 452 for $123. The RA140 was on sale for $85 regularly for the last 3 months....Brownell doesn’t have right now...I paid $119, but it came with a PSA LPK.

Cassette vs Standard
I mention this because there is some kind of tolerance problem with AR standard triggers that require large sear engagement to be safe. I thought it was recoil induced like bump fire. This is why Geisselle always promotes their safety. So as a standard trigger, this means that the 452 has excessive sear engagement from a feel perspective.
The cassette triggers are single stage short engagement triggers that have tighter tolerancing and some better disconnect to prevent this safety issue. It works? This thing breaks like a nice 1911 trigger...reset is solid. Never a bump fire. Super fast controlled rate of fire or precise slow fire. You need to try it.

RISE VS POF VS OTHER
I’m not going to say they are all the same, but you should get the cassette benefits from all of the cassette triggers more or less. Look at the trigger scans.
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Old April 9, 2019, 11:45 AM   #38
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Larue i gtg but to say the CMCs aren't in the same class is beyond absurd.

In response to "....... Idk of any true drop in triggers lower in price than CMC ....", the RA-140 has always been appreciably less expensive than the CMCs. I've gotten a couple of CMCs for <100.00 but that's rare.
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Old April 10, 2019, 11:10 AM   #39
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Davidson Defense has a new 3.5lb drop in trigger for $99, made by some major manufacturer for them, sold under their DD name.
https://davidsondefense.com/Davidson...nt_p_4159.html
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Old April 10, 2019, 11:54 AM   #40
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Larue MBT-2S is no doubt about the BEST trigger going for the price. I have 5 Geissele triggersand they are fantastic but for 1/2 the money the Larue is 95% of what the G triggers are.

Buy Larue and be happy and save money doing it.
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Old April 10, 2019, 07:54 PM   #41
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Larue MBT-2S is no doubt about the BEST trigger going for the price. I have 5 Geissele triggersand they are fantastic but for 1/2 the money the Larue is 95% of what the G triggers are.
I think you are selling a Larue short, IMO....


Now, Triggertech, that is a trigger! No business on a standard AR. Could be lighter, but it is sweet!
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Old April 10, 2019, 08:43 PM   #42
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The 1 Larue trigger I have is a tiny bit "gritty" on the first stage but the 2nd stage is excellent. The machined surfaces aren't as nicely polished or finished as well as my G triggers are. So IMO they are 95% of a G trigger and less than 1/2 the cost. So yeah best deal going.
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Old April 19, 2019, 08:46 PM   #43
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Rise under $90.....LINK
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Old April 19, 2019, 11:31 PM   #44
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+1 for the Rock River 2 stage... on sale now for $99.
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Old April 21, 2019, 12:25 AM   #45
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Interesting development with my LaRue MBTs today...
I had two lowers out with the MBTs, and my best lower with the G2S-E (SS2-E?).

Every time. EVERY time I went from the G2S-E to an MBT, I'd fire the first round and then pull the take-up and think I had a dead trigger (out of battery assumed, but always wrong).

I don't recommend mixing two stage triggers if you're shooting them back-to-back...
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Old April 22, 2019, 02:46 PM   #46
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I have 2 POF’s and love them. I paid $119 each at my local Sportsman’s wharehouse.
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