AR type pistols

yotesmoker · July 26, 2020, 08:32 AM

Hope this is the proper place to post this.I have been looking over 2 ar pistols ,the cmmg banshee and the LWRC SMG 45.My question ......is the LWRC worth more than twice the price over the CMMG pistol?

Fishbed77 · July 26, 2020, 08:58 AM

Depends on what you want it for. LWRC makes products with a very high level of QA/QC, largely for military contracts, and for users whose lives depend on them. CMMG is more focused on consumer products at a price point.

That’s not to say CMMG makes bad products. I own one of their .22LR dedicated ARs and it’s accurate, well made, and fun. But they are not my go-to for defensive products. They just don’t have the reputation in that space that LWRC has.

Rangegod · July 26, 2020, 09:16 AM

The short answer (in my opinion and for my purposes) is no. I have an 8", 45 ACP CMMG Banshee and it puts 45 ACP rounds on target with 100% reliability. It offers the advantage of 100% human interface compatibility with the AR platform. In addition it uses inexpensive, readily available Glock mags, which also work in my G30s. I've also had no issues with the 30 round ETS or the 26 round KCI mags. Unless the LWRC can rotate your tires or run your reloading press I can't see how it's worth twice the price.

GeauxTide · July 26, 2020, 11:03 PM

A local company manufacturers ARs and I had them put together a 45 for me. 8" threaded, carbine length stock and Glock Mags. Shoots like a dream. They also put a 300 HAM'R together for me. The Armory in Pelham, AL. Outstanding.

44caliberkid · July 27, 2020, 08:14 AM

The LWRC looks cooler, more MP5 like. Both products have a delayed blow back type action, which is nice. I have home built pistols in 9mm and 45 that are straight blowback, and that system has a lot of inertia traveling back and forth, especially in 45. CMMG makes good, well reviewed, products and I've used some of their parts for builds. If I'm on a budget for guns there's no way I'd pay almost 3 grand for the LWRC.

rickyrick · July 27, 2020, 12:35 PM

I’ve used cmmg parts, all have been perfect.
Cmmg has the best standard milspec’ish trigger.
Cmmg complete rifles used to have a loyal following.

I wouldn’t be afraid to purchase cmmg anything.
Not intended to say anything is wrong about the other choice. Just passing what I know about cmmg.

RickB · July 27, 2020, 05:55 PM

I've been binge-reading back issues of Firearms News for a couple of weeks, and must have read fifty articles on different brands, sizes, calibers, DGI, piston, etc., etc., and the only article that really made me think, "Should look into getting one of those" was the CMMG pistol-caliber pistols, especially in either .45 or 10mm.

stagpanther · July 28, 2020, 05:50 AM

10mm is right at the limit of what a conventional blow-back pistol can handle; I've always wanted to try cmmg's banshee with delayed bolt unlock. Since no pistol bullet is going to be giving you .2 MOA at 200 yds no matter what you fire it through--I'd go with the CMMG.

zeke · July 28, 2020, 08:49 AM

Am very pleased with my short barreled 45 acp Banshee. Accurate and fun to shoot, especially suppressed.

yotesmoker · July 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

thanks for the info..ordered the cmmg

Ramiaqrabawi · July 29, 2020, 10:16 PM

The lwrc is a great firearm. This will probably be my next firearm to get. The price is the only thing that is stopping from buying it at the moment.

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July 26, 2020, 08:32 AM	#1
yotesmoker Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: pa mountains Posts: 78	AR type pistols Hope this is the proper place to post this.I have been looking over 2 ar pistols ,the cmmg banshee and the LWRC SMG 45.My question ......is the LWRC worth more than twice the price over the CMMG pistol?

July 26, 2020, 09:16 AM	#3
Rangegod Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2002 Location: South FL. Posts: 164	LWRC vs. CMMG The short answer (in my opinion and for my purposes) is no. I have an 8", 45 ACP CMMG Banshee and it puts 45 ACP rounds on target with 100% reliability. It offers the advantage of 100% human interface compatibility with the AR platform. In addition it uses inexpensive, readily available Glock mags, which also work in my G30s. I've also had no issues with the 30 round ETS or the 26 round KCI mags. Unless the LWRC can rotate your tires or run your reloading press I can't see how it's worth twice the price. __________________ “Whatever the State saith is a lie; whatever it hath is a theft.” ~ Nietzsche

July 26, 2020, 11:03 PM	#4
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,423	A local company manufacturers ARs and I had them put together a 45 for me. 8" threaded, carbine length stock and Glock Mags. Shoots like a dream. They also put a 300 HAM'R together for me. The Armory in Pelham, AL. Outstanding. __________________ Reloading For: 223R, 243W, 6.5 GR, 6.5 CM, 260R, 6.5-06, 280R, 7mmRM, 300HAM'R, 308W, 30-06, 338-06, 9mm, 357M, 41M, 44SPL, 44M, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 450BM.

July 27, 2020, 05:55 PM	#7
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I've been binge-reading back issues of Firearms News for a couple of weeks, and must have read fifty articles on different brands, sizes, calibers, DGI, piston, etc., etc., and the only article that really made me think, "Should look into getting one of those" was the CMMG pistol-caliber pistols, especially in either .45 or 10mm. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

July 28, 2020, 05:50 AM	#8
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,771	10mm is right at the limit of what a conventional blow-back pistol can handle; I've always wanted to try cmmg's banshee with delayed bolt unlock. Since no pistol bullet is going to be giving you .2 MOA at 200 yds no matter what you fire it through--I'd go with the CMMG. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

July 26, 2020, 08:58 AM	#2
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Depends on what you want it for. LWRC makes products with a very high level of QA/QC, largely for military contracts, and for users whose lives depend on them. CMMG is more focused on consumer products at a price point. That’s not to say CMMG makes bad products. I own one of their .22LR dedicated ARs and it’s accurate, well made, and fun. But they are not my go-to for defensive products. They just don’t have the reputation in that space that LWRC has.

July 27, 2020, 08:14 AM	#5
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,098	The LWRC looks cooler, more MP5 like. Both products have a delayed blow back type action, which is nice. I have home built pistols in 9mm and 45 that are straight blowback, and that system has a lot of inertia traveling back and forth, especially in 45. CMMG makes good, well reviewed, products and I've used some of their parts for builds. If I'm on a budget for guns there's no way I'd pay almost 3 grand for the LWRC.

July 27, 2020, 12:35 PM	#6
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	I’ve used cmmg parts, all have been perfect. Cmmg has the best standard milspec’ish trigger. Cmmg complete rifles used to have a loyal following. I wouldn’t be afraid to purchase cmmg anything. Not intended to say anything is wrong about the other choice. Just passing what I know about cmmg.

July 28, 2020, 08:49 AM	#9
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	Am very pleased with my short barreled 45 acp Banshee. Accurate and fun to shoot, especially suppressed.

July 29, 2020, 11:39 AM	#10
yotesmoker Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: pa mountains Posts: 78	thanks for the info..ordered the cmmg

July 29, 2020, 10:16 PM	#11
Ramiaqrabawi Junior Member Join Date: July 28, 2020 Posts: 6	The lwrc is a great firearm. This will probably be my next firearm to get. The price is the only thing that is stopping from buying it at the moment. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk