What kind of projectile is this?

MikeGoob · October 27, 2017, 02:37 PM

Jim Watson · October 27, 2017, 02:43 PM

APDSFS - Armor Piercing, Discarding Sabot, Fin Stabilized.

Tank ammo.

**Mike Irwin** · October 27, 2017, 05:32 PM

It appears to be an early version of the depleted uranium rod penetrator ammo designed for the M1 Abrams.

MTT TL · October 27, 2017, 07:11 PM

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APDSFS - Armor Piercing, Discarding Sabot, Fin Stabilized.

It's either that or a foreign copy. After the Gulf War every country on Earth with a tank Army hustled to make copies of the US new wonder tank round, some were more successful than others.

jonnyc · October 27, 2017, 09:51 PM

"After the Gulf War..."

It's actually 1970s technology. One of the first to field APFSDS rounds was the USSR, for their T-62 mounted 115mm gun.

DaleA · October 28, 2017, 02:09 AM

A Pennsylvania jogger found something similar a few days ago:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...afternoon-run/

T. O'Heir · October 28, 2017, 12:48 PM

"...their T-62 mounted 115mm gun..." Their penetrator bounced off Abrams' Cobham armour in the Gulf War.
APFSDS rounds predate the Abrams by eons. APDS ammo was developed before 1940 and was used in French 75's. The one in PA was defective. Sabot didn't come off.
General Dynamics has developed a 25mm APFSDS-T round with a tungsten penetrator for use in the M242 gun.

Bartholomew Roberts · October 28, 2017, 03:28 PM

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The one in PA was defective. Sabot didn't come off.

Unless the U.S. Army has taken to hose-clamping sabots around training projectiles, I'm going to guess someone jury-rigged the PA projectile from a used training round and a discarded sabot.

October 27, 2017, 02:37 PM	#1
MikeGoob Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Posts: 876	What kind of projectile is this?

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Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	It appears to be an early version of the depleted uranium rod penetrator ammo designed for the M1 Abrams. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 27, 2017, 09:51 PM	#5
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	"After the Gulf War..." It's actually 1970s technology. One of the first to field APFSDS rounds was the USSR, for their T-62 mounted 115mm gun. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

October 28, 2017, 12:48 PM	#7
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...their T-62 mounted 115mm gun..." Their penetrator bounced off Abrams' Cobham armour in the Gulf War. APFSDS rounds predate the Abrams by eons. APDS ammo was developed before 1940 and was used in French 75's. The one in PA was defective. Sabot didn't come off. General Dynamics has developed a 25mm APFSDS-T round with a tungsten penetrator for use in the M242 gun. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

October 27, 2017, 02:43 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	APDSFS - Armor Piercing, Discarding Sabot, Fin Stabilized. Tank ammo.

October 28, 2017, 02:09 AM	#6
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,313	A Pennsylvania jogger found something similar a few days ago: http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...afternoon-run/