Adjust iron on foreend of double

CockNBama · November 12, 2017, 10:18 AM

20 gauge Yildiz sxs gets a little wobbly when it gets hot. I think I've read that this might entail an adjustment to the iron. Is that so, and how do I do it?

The "wobbly" sensation is all in the foreend, and is lateral, not fore and aft. The barrels stay firmly locked up with the receiver.

tangolima · November 12, 2017, 12:50 PM

Sounds like the iron is fine. It is just how the forearm is attached to the iron.

I would suggest taking it to a competent smith. Break action shotguns required certain finesse to work on.

-TL

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Virginian · November 12, 2017, 06:32 PM

Usually there is a little bit of slack side to side in the fit of fore end irons to the barrel latch. The mating of the barrels to the fore stock is supposed to keep things tight. A couple of shims with black electrical tape under the wood out of sight focusing on the center portion will usually fix things.

bamaranger · November 16, 2017, 08:45 PM

Midway USA has a really nice set of video's on youtube regards tightening up quality British doubles, done by an old school 'smith from England. Grand old gentleman it seems. I used some of the info/techniques there to tighten up an old Savage 311. There are sections on both the breeches (2 videos) forearms (1).....though whether your Yildiz forearm is attached like the demo gun I can't say.

The video of the old gent and his coming up in the trade is entertaining as well.

Oh yeah, CockNBama.......Roll Tide!

CockNBama · November 19, 2017, 12:38 PM

Roger, Ranger. RTR. Thanks for the info, too.

Virginian · November 19, 2017, 04:48 PM

Keep in mind we are talking Yildiz, not Purdey.

CockNBama · November 19, 2017, 04:56 PM

This is an edit of an unwise, snarky response. I apologize for that.

I've now viewed both the videos on forend adjustment. I have not done the job yet, though I feel it is within my range of mechanical skills. Before I upset the iron, I will try Virginian's notion of shims.

Thanks to all for the info and the cautions.

T. O'Heir · November 20, 2017, 01:02 PM

Stop thinking iron for starters. It's not iron. It may not be steel either though.
Fiddling with doubles is really best left to those who are trained and experienced. It doesn't take much to throw off the regulating of the barrels.

Virginian · November 20, 2017, 03:35 PM

I was a licensed gunsmith for many years. I may have jumped the shark, but I have learned to read between the lines when listening to gun owners. You want your fore end to stop wiggling.
The barrels on a Purdey are usually VERY thin, and the value of the gun warrants a careful and well thought out process before undertaking ANY repair or alteration. A Yildiz has considerably thicker barrels, is worth much less, and is not assembled with near the care. They are very serviceable firearms. The quality is somewhat variable, but they are not what I would consider a bad deal for anyone who does not anticipate shooting truckloads of shells through them. You are not going to disturb the POI by installing soft shims under the fore end to just snug things up, and it will probably not detract from the resale value if you ever decide to sell it.

CockNBama · November 21, 2017, 07:25 AM

Virginian, I agree with you about the shims, and about the Yildiz. It is a cheap, serviceable gun that I've already learned a lot with. I think of it as my "try gun", and I'll attempt things with it I would not venture to do with my Elsie.

I'll let you know how this turns out.

November 12, 2017, 10:18 AM	#1
CockNBama Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 206	Adjust iron on foreend of double 20 gauge Yildiz sxs gets a little wobbly when it gets hot. I think I've read that this might entail an adjustment to the iron. Is that so, and how do I do it? The "wobbly" sensation is all in the foreend, and is lateral, not fore and aft. The barrels stay firmly locked up with the receiver.

November 12, 2017, 06:32 PM	#3
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Usually there is a little bit of slack side to side in the fit of fore end irons to the barrel latch. The mating of the barrels to the fore stock is supposed to keep things tight. A couple of shims with black electrical tape under the wood out of sight focusing on the center portion will usually fix things. __________________ What could have happened... did.

November 16, 2017, 08:45 PM	#4
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,300	videos Midway USA has a really nice set of video's on youtube regards tightening up quality British doubles, done by an old school 'smith from England. Grand old gentleman it seems. I used some of the info/techniques there to tighten up an old Savage 311. There are sections on both the breeches (2 videos) forearms (1).....though whether your Yildiz forearm is attached like the demo gun I can't say. The video of the old gent and his coming up in the trade is entertaining as well. Oh yeah, CockNBama.......Roll Tide!

November 19, 2017, 04:48 PM	#6
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Keep in mind we are talking Yildiz, not Purdey. __________________ What could have happened... did.

November 19, 2017, 04:56 PM	#7
CockNBama Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 206	This is an edit of an unwise, snarky response. I apologize for that. I've now viewed both the videos on forend adjustment. I have not done the job yet, though I feel it is within my range of mechanical skills. Before I upset the iron, I will try Virginian's notion of shims. Thanks to all for the info and the cautions. Last edited by CockNBama; November 20, 2017 at 07:02 AM.

November 12, 2017, 12:50 PM	#2
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,814	Sounds like the iron is fine. It is just how the forearm is attached to the iron. I would suggest taking it to a competent smith. Break action shotguns required certain finesse to work on. -TL Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

November 19, 2017, 12:38 PM	#5
CockNBama Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 206	Roger, Ranger. RTR. Thanks for the info, too.

November 20, 2017, 01:02 PM	#8
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Stop thinking iron for starters. It's not iron. It may not be steel either though. Fiddling with doubles is really best left to those who are trained and experienced. It doesn't take much to throw off the regulating of the barrels. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

November 20, 2017, 03:35 PM	#9
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	I was a licensed gunsmith for many years. I may have jumped the shark, but I have learned to read between the lines when listening to gun owners. You want your fore end to stop wiggling. The barrels on a Purdey are usually VERY thin, and the value of the gun warrants a careful and well thought out process before undertaking ANY repair or alteration. A Yildiz has considerably thicker barrels, is worth much less, and is not assembled with near the care. They are very serviceable firearms. The quality is somewhat variable, but they are not what I would consider a bad deal for anyone who does not anticipate shooting truckloads of shells through them. You are not going to disturb the POI by installing soft shims under the fore end to just snug things up, and it will probably not detract from the resale value if you ever decide to sell it. __________________ What could have happened... did.

November 21, 2017, 07:25 AM	#10
CockNBama Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 206	Virginian, I agree with you about the shims, and about the Yildiz. It is a cheap, serviceable gun that I've already learned a lot with. I think of it as my "try gun", and I'll attempt things with it I would not venture to do with my Elsie. I'll let you know how this turns out.