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July 14, 2019, 03:22 PM | #51 |
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I only buy S&W revolvers made before the extra hole and parts
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July 19, 2019, 11:02 AM | #55 |
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You guys are quacking me up.
(Yes, it's bad, but someone was bound to do it.) |
July 19, 2019, 03:58 PM | #56 |
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Haven't heard anything from the OP in 9 days as to iffin he has contacted S&W and iffin he has, what their response was. Curious as all get out to what really is going on with his barrel..........
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July 20, 2019, 04:40 AM | #57 |
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In 1974, my grandfather purchased a brand new S&W 39-2 9mm. First magazine or two resulted in a couple stove pipes with Remington 124 grain hardball. He shipped it back to S&W, who in turn polished the ramp and test fired it until it ran as smoothly as butter. He got his pistol back within 2 weeks. It is now mine and still functioning as designed, original springs, magazines, etc. I'm pretty sure even if there was an internet back in 1974, my Grandfather wouldn't have broadcasted any criticism towards S&W on social media, only praise.
My point is, S&W turns out a boatload of guns every year. Like any large reputable company (Colt firearms, Ford, Chevy, Bear Archery, etc.), given the tremendously high volume of products being manufactured, there will always be an occassional imperfect item that slips by Quality Control, hence their Warranty and repair Departments. The OP's weapon is unacceptable and should be returned for repair / replacement... repeatedly if necessary. Last edited by shurshot; July 20, 2019 at 04:54 AM. |
July 20, 2019, 08:03 AM | #58 |
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Arguably the most oft repeated myth of revolver aficionados is that their holy grail of handguns, the revolver, is more reliable than a semi. A good quality semi will whip a good quality revolver in reliability testing. A semi is of simplistic design with few moving parts. A double-action revolver is of complex design with many moving parts, all of which have to work perfectly for a revolver to function as intended.
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July 20, 2019, 08:07 AM | #59 |
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On topic, like Remington, it's sad what has happened to an icon of American gun making. Prior to its sale to a British outfit in the early 80's, S&W represented the best of American craftsmanship.
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July 20, 2019, 09:11 AM | #60 | |
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So......what's your point, other than your holy grail of handguns, is a semi? |
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July 20, 2019, 09:32 AM | #61 | |
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July 20, 2019, 10:09 AM | #62 |
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Several years ago, I bought a 686SSR through my LGS. When it came in, there was a slight problem. The cylinder had six chambers, but 7 flutes, one of which was directly over one of the chambers.
I posted photos on every firearms forum I could find and my post was copied to many forums I’d never heard of. S&W was not happy about me sharing their monumental screw-up and agreed to replace the very dangerous cylinder with an unfluted one. I advise you to post your problem on all the firearms sites and see what Smith’s reaction is. https://www.irista.com/gallery/twu5uafwbzwn |
July 20, 2019, 01:39 PM | #63 |
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Discussing Revolver vs Semi (anything) is off topic in this thread. If you want to do that, you are welcome to start a thread for it.
The OP got a bad gun, and is trying to get the maker to repair/replace it. Experiences with that make & model gun and with S&W customer service are on topic, lets try and focus on those. If I'm reading the OP correctly, the gun has been sent back twice, already. Who paid for that?? Since there was no gripe about the cost, I'll assume it was S&W. Wait time it wait time, and while its important to each of us individually, to S&W, its just another customer, and expecting to go to the front of the line, just because you don't want to wait is unrealistic. Aggravating, yes but unless you can convince S&W why your gun needs to be fixed before everyone else's, then you have to wait like everyone else.
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July 20, 2019, 05:51 PM | #65 | |
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I think they left the bad cylinder there to remind the operators to put in the correct program for each cylinder. |
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July 20, 2019, 06:22 PM | #66 |
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^^^ And they stash it away when the insurance company comes to visit.
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July 22, 2019, 02:23 PM | #67 |
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I'd like to see how SW handles this.
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July 22, 2019, 09:43 PM | #68 |
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I've owned a few Smiths... one being a "Performance Center" that I got in a trade. Was not impressed with it at all. Seemed like just some flashy extras for much more cash. Since selling that one, I've stayed clear of S&W. I prefer Rugers, for quality and customer service. No, there's not a perfect company, but at least Ruger takes care of their customers.
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July 26, 2019, 05:59 PM | #69 |
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Yesterday I got a call telling me that I will be getting a replacement. I'm glad Smith is finally doing the right thing. Just hoping that this one is a good one.
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July 26, 2019, 07:09 PM | #70 |
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I will fall off my virtual bar stool if you receive anything but excellence from them for your new 460.
Please update the thread and let us know.
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July 27, 2019, 09:14 AM | #72 |
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Apparently S&W has their own "LEMON LAW". I too believe the one they send will meet with your satisfaction. I know it's easy to get frustrated and the internet and social media is a great way to vent it. Sometimes tho, patience still is a virtue.
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July 27, 2019, 11:08 AM | #73 |
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I think S&W is doing the right thing, I certainly don think they did this to me on purpose. My patience did begin to run thin however after 5 months and 3 trips back to the homeland.
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July 28, 2019, 01:53 PM | #74 |
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It is possible the gun you get will not be the same gun you sent in. It could be entirely new, and have the serial # of the gun you sent in. S&W can legally do this, and often does when repeated repair attempts just don't get all the bugs out.
It could also be a complete rebuild of your frame, but if they say "new gun" it will be a new gun. Check and see if its not the same serial # as the one you had, I'm guessing it will be. let us know how it works out.
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