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Old May 27, 2007, 08:44 AM   #51
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It's down again.
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Old May 27, 2007, 11:02 AM   #52
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Hmmm

I like the color green more than blue so I spend more time at the THR (half serious).

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Old May 27, 2007, 12:19 PM   #53
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Derek, et al.

If you're reading this, let THR wait until Tuesday.

Enjoy your weekend.
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Old May 27, 2007, 01:58 PM   #54
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I guess w/ the growth in membership & traffic comes issues like the ones they've been experiencing lately...I'm glad these issues aren't terminal & that there are alternative quality places to go in the interim.
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Old May 27, 2007, 02:12 PM   #55
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Kermit,

For some reason someone has taken a distinct dislike to THR/APS and has been launching DDOS attacks for the past couple of weeks. It has nothing to do with membership growth, I don't think.
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Old May 27, 2007, 02:19 PM   #56
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I agree with Mike. This is another directed attack, in my totally uniformed opinion.

If it was server space, or bandwidth, or hardware that needed upgrading, I think that Oleg and Crew know that the members would help fund the upgrade.
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Old May 27, 2007, 02:38 PM   #57
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Two top likelihoods:

1) Democratic Underground types who are high-fiving each other every time they hit the button.

2) Organized, but likely deniable, attack funded by a political campaign.
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Old May 27, 2007, 03:07 PM   #58
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Do not repeat that Bogie. Many folks on our side will tell you the tinfoil is to tight.

Ask me how I know!

I would bet it is someone with physical access to the site. I cannot believe someone who had a remote control in that DC would be allowed to continue.
Maybe someone who sees us as the biggest serious threat.
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Old May 27, 2007, 04:46 PM   #59
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Well, if somebody's trying to shut us up they're doing a poor job of it.

Oh, and hi guys... the attacks on THR finally convinced me I should sign up here too.

No real good reason that I haven't before now, other than the fact I found THR first, and I see a lot of the same names both places. Anyway... here I am.


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Old May 27, 2007, 06:24 PM   #60
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Redundant systems are good, whether it is weapons or comms.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:00 PM   #61
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Well, if somebody's trying to shut us up they're doing a poor job of it.

Oh, and hi guys... the attacks on THR finally convinced me I should sign up here too.

No real good reason that I haven't before now, other than the fact I found THR first, and I see a lot of the same names both places. Anyway... here I am.

Ditto

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Old May 27, 2007, 08:24 PM   #62
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I'm getting darned tired of this. Wish there was a way to identify the attacker.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:33 PM   #63
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Identifying the attacker would be good.

Getting Derek the help he needs to migrate to a better-protected host would do much to maintain THR/APS stability. Having to pay for the bandwidth generated by an inbound DDoS flood isn't exactly the best customer service.
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Old May 27, 2007, 09:16 PM   #64
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So far, I haven't heard word one from the administrator about exactly what's been happening the past few weeks. There have been calls to get funds together, but without knowing what the problem is that strikes me as somewhat premature. Does anyone know what's happening?
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Old May 27, 2007, 09:38 PM   #65
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Then you haven't been reading the threads concerning the outages. Derek has kept us up to speed both here at TFL and on THR when it's up and running.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=247971
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=243948

Obviously, I can't give you links to the THR threads.
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Old May 27, 2007, 10:49 PM   #66
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Yeah, the downtime is getting awfully annoying. I too have been forced to get my fix over here on TFL. That's actually not so bad though. While I do prefer THR, there are good things to be said about the people here too. Besides, it seems we're mostly the same people on both anyway. One thing I did that is pretty stupid though... I, like many of you, do a lot of buying and selling on THR (certainly more buying then selling) Not even always in the sale sub-forums, but sometimes just in in private discussions. Problem is, I never thought much of not keeping a backup of messages, addresses, and info outside the storage of PMs. So right now I can't TCOB because needed info is in stored PMs only .. *sigh* My fault, but food for thought.
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Old May 27, 2007, 11:11 PM   #67
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fire mission on the Chitown Data Centers fiber cables. All 4 of them. They are hidden within rigid conduit on diverse paths into the space. Maybe we can knock down the CPD dirty barmaid network.

Did I say that?
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Old May 28, 2007, 12:55 AM   #68
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I've seen those earlier threads, and unless I missed it I don't see anything about who was actually doing the attack--if anyone--and what the fix might be. I guess we still don't have a fix. What about shutting it down to everything except recognized members when this happens?
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Old May 28, 2007, 01:05 AM   #69
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Cos,
DoS attacks have absolutely nothing to do with members. The person (or persons) responsible haven't necessarily even ever visited the site. The fix, other than changing hosting services, is in the hands of the current hosting service to get off their bums and learn to increase their security and server capability of handling the attacks.
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Old May 28, 2007, 02:28 AM   #70
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I think it could be any number of groups

We zumboed the Roanoke newspaper, I left messages with a lot of advertisers and editors asking for personal info to post on the net
Huff post and washington post won't let me post and I never said anything other then polite refutes, our anti Rudy threads are monumental, I'm sure Bloomberg doesn't like us...A billionaire like Bloomberg could easily have an aid who is zealous.
Someone is doing it!
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Old May 28, 2007, 02:36 AM   #71
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Well guys, as many left wing polls as we nailed after the VT tragedy, I'm pretty well convinced some liberal hacker was brought in to get some payback.

I put NOTHING past the lunatic left.

Tin hat too tight? Maybe. But, I don't think so.
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Old May 28, 2007, 02:48 AM   #72
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Well whatever it is DU and FR do to keep these attacks from shutting them down, we need to do the same.

Is there any hope of ID'ing the culprit?
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:31 AM   #73
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I would hope so , Cosmoline

I don't know enough about the innernet to figure out who is doing it,
But I prefer we catch them and bring a lawsuit against them, or him.

I don't want a forum war, I want a trial.
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:49 AM   #74
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Still down. I enjoy both TFL and THR..as it should be. Are any of you computer savy enough to tell the rest of us what the problem might be? Thanks.
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:57 AM   #75
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Oh, and hi guys... the attacks on THR finally convinced me I should sign up here too.
Me, too.
Find the person(s) responsable, and press charges. Is that possible in this case?
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