Can I shoot 22 short in a 22 LR chamber? - Page 2

Picher · April 4, 2020, 09:14 AM

The old Remington 514 was a very cheap rifle and the barrel was very soft steel, compared with others of it's day, as well as today's steel. Examining the chamber, after cleaning, the belled area located between the short and long rifle shell lengths was quite pronounced. To make matters worse, the extractor wasn't as good as in other rimfire rifles of it's day.

The rifle cost less than $20 in the mid-1950s, so it was basically a "throw-away" starter piece, but it shot well for a long time and could have worked for several years if I hadn't shot .22 Shorts in it. I got tired of prying LR shells out with a pocket knife, so it was time to let it go.

baddarryl · April 8, 2020, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brasscollector

I'm not sure what the record is but this has got to be in the top-5 necro threads. OP was over 18 years ago.

reloder56 · April 8, 2020, 04:39 PM

Back during the Obama era ".22 LR Drought" , I purchased a used Mossberg Model 352 specifically to shoot .22 HV Shorts as that was the only .22 rimfire ammo available in my neck of the woods at that time. It came with Mossberg's patented magazine with adjustable follower that allowed you to shoot Shorts, Longs and Long Rifle ammunition. I put a long tube Redfield fixed 2.5 X power scope with heavy cross hair reticle on it. To this day, that rifle, loaded with .22 HV Shorts, is one of the best tools for harvesting rabbits when snow is on the ground and gray squirrels when the trees loose their leaves.
Gary

cw308 · April 9, 2020, 11:34 AM

I would think it would take a lot of shooting to ware out a 22 rimfire , 22 lead bullets are soft and if shooting a short in a long rifle chamber I could see as Bill D mentioned a build up of lead , the donut effect. Midway has a product called lead away . It removes the burn rings on the face or the revolvers cylinder like magic , no rubbing ,it just wipes off , THATS ON STAINLESS STEEL , it will remove the bluing. It removes the lead like butter in a lead build up barrel . As Bart B mentioned 30 thousand rounds down the barrel , I'm sure it's not only the barrel that shows ware.

10-96 · April 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

Speaking of .22 Shorts. Does anyone remember what the magazine fix was which used a .22 Short case as a makeshift bushing? Maybe it was some other "fix" trick? I can't find any reference to that anywhere, and I know darn well I used a .22 Short case for some sort of repair.

pwc · April 11, 2020, 12:05 AM

I've used 22LR brass as an axle bushing on the kitchen drawer slides, still working after 20+ yrs.

pwc · April 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

Mossberg 44 and 144 both had a screw in the magazine to allow use of shorts.

pwc · April 11, 2020, 12:10 AM

Did the side show/fair gallery rifles use shorts or CB Caps?

berettaprofessor · April 11, 2020, 09:05 AM

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I assume you mean you PM'ed DC67 not the OP (ballistic gelatin) who hasn't been around these parts for over 17 year

LOL....yes, I PMed DC67. He/she has the short brass now.

cw308 · April 11, 2020, 05:08 PM

I can't see a magazine fed being able to to feed short , long and long rifle . It can shoot all three but feeding is something else .

Dufus · April 11, 2020, 05:46 PM

I have a Mossberg 144LS that feeds them all.

cw308 · April 13, 2020, 01:42 PM

Dufus
That's pretty good , I would have thought the short would cause problems feeding , When I was a kid 15 ,I think it was a JC Higgens bolt action it also was marked Short , Long and Long rifle but I only used long rifle . Thanks for the info.

Chris

April 8, 2020, 04:39 PM	#28
reloder56 Member Join Date: July 2, 2013 Posts: 59	.22 Short in a .22LR? Back during the Obama era ".22 LR Drought" , I purchased a used Mossberg Model 352 specifically to shoot .22 HV Shorts as that was the only .22 rimfire ammo available in my neck of the woods at that time. It came with Mossberg's patented magazine with adjustable follower that allowed you to shoot Shorts, Longs and Long Rifle ammunition. I put a long tube Redfield fixed 2.5 X power scope with heavy cross hair reticle on it. To this day, that rifle, loaded with .22 HV Shorts, is one of the best tools for harvesting rabbits when snow is on the ground and gray squirrels when the trees loose their leaves. Gary

April 10, 2020, 10:04 PM	#30
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,160	Speaking of .22 Shorts. Does anyone remember what the magazine fix was which used a .22 Short case as a makeshift bushing? Maybe it was some other "fix" trick? I can't find any reference to that anywhere, and I know darn well I used a .22 Short case for some sort of repair. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

April 4, 2020, 09:14 AM	#26
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 3,694	The old Remington 514 was a very cheap rifle and the barrel was very soft steel, compared with others of it's day, as well as today's steel. Examining the chamber, after cleaning, the belled area located between the short and long rifle shell lengths was quite pronounced. To make matters worse, the extractor wasn't as good as in other rimfire rifles of it's day. The rifle cost less than $20 in the mid-1950s, so it was basically a "throw-away" starter piece, but it shot well for a long time and could have worked for several years if I hadn't shot .22 Shorts in it. I got tired of prying LR shells out with a pocket knife, so it was time to let it go.

April 9, 2020, 11:34 AM	#29
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	I would think it would take a lot of shooting to ware out a 22 rimfire , 22 lead bullets are soft and if shooting a short in a long rifle chamber I could see as Bill D mentioned a build up of lead , the donut effect. Midway has a product called lead away . It removes the burn rings on the face or the revolvers cylinder like magic , no rubbing ,it just wipes off , THATS ON STAINLESS STEEL , it will remove the bluing. It removes the lead like butter in a lead build up barrel . As Bart B mentioned 30 thousand rounds down the barrel , I'm sure it's not only the barrel that shows ware.

April 11, 2020, 12:05 AM	#31
pwc Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2018 Location: AZ Posts: 236	I've used 22LR brass as an axle bushing on the kitchen drawer slides, still working after 20+ yrs.

April 11, 2020, 12:09 AM	#32
pwc Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2018 Location: AZ Posts: 236	Mossberg 44 and 144 both had a screw in the magazine to allow use of shorts.

April 11, 2020, 12:10 AM	#33
pwc Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2018 Location: AZ Posts: 236	Did the side show/fair gallery rifles use shorts or CB Caps?

April 11, 2020, 05:08 PM	#35
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	I can't see a magazine fed being able to to feed short , long and long rifle . It can shoot all three but feeding is something else .

April 11, 2020, 05:46 PM	#36
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	I have a Mossberg 144LS that feeds them all.

April 13, 2020, 01:42 PM	#37
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	Dufus That's pretty good , I would have thought the short would cause problems feeding , When I was a kid 15 ,I think it was a JC Higgens bolt action it also was marked Short , Long and Long rifle but I only used long rifle . Thanks for the info. Chris