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Old January 26, 2019, 02:25 PM   #26
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To All, we have a Shield EZ also and it does the exact same thing with the last round and with both magazines. Also from everyone that I have talked to with this gun they are all experiencing the same thing. Now also this is an early model that is listed in the recall list of numbers for the safety so I don't know if this has been rectified on the latest models.

Ours doesn't do it every time but almost. Also many of the early video reviews I've seen so this happening. I have yet to hear of a remedy that works.
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Old January 26, 2019, 02:25 PM   #27
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To All, we have a Shield EZ also and it does the exact same thing with the last round and with both magazines. Also from everyone that I have talked to with this gun they are all experiencing the same thing. Now also this is an early model that is listed in the recall list of numbers for the safety so I don't know if this has been rectified on the latest models.



Ours doesn't do it every time but almost. Also many of the early video reviews I've seen so this happening. I have yet to hear of a remedy that works.
Did you call S&W?

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Old January 26, 2019, 02:29 PM   #28
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When people refer to ballistic gel as Jello and then expect to have their opinions taken seriously, I'm left scratching my head

I'm scratching my head wondering at what point I stated that I 'expected' anything from anyone.
I presented an opinion, do with as you wish

As for 'jello', you do know that actual ballistic gelatin is made out of the same animal proteins as the brand name Jello product.....don't you? BTW I prefer orange.

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Old January 26, 2019, 02:37 PM   #29
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I do but I think dismissing results in it casually is short sighted. Similarly to yourself, I'm just expressing an opinion.

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Old January 26, 2019, 02:54 PM   #30
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While I haven't tried the 380, I have used 9mm and 38/357 on hogs as well as to put down some livestock. The results weren't much different than conventional ammunition including FMJ, Ive put it into the $2 per round gimmick category. It makes for neato slow-motion jello footage, but applies none of that to actual living critters.
About $1.20 per round and tested thru things like sheet metal and numerous layers of cloth that often ‘clogs’ JHP. But if that hog is wearing some Levi’s or driving a car, might have some problems.......
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Old January 26, 2019, 02:56 PM   #31
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I do but I think dismissing results in it casually is short sighted. Similarly to yourself, I'm just expressing an opinion.

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I think believing how a bullet performs in jello....err....umm....gelatin actually equates to how it behaves in living flesh, muscle, tissue, bone, etc, is incredibly naive. I also think ammunition manufacturers have grasped hold of the emotion people invest into watching such 'tests' and sucker people out of their hard earned money. More power to them, and more power to those that truly believe.

But as I've said many many times before, after half a century of hunting, culling, and duty, I've yet to see a common handgun service caliber projectile behave in 'ballistic gel' (natural or synthetic) the same or even similar to how it behaves in actual living tissue. It simply doesn't.

If you really want to see how closely the various calibers and bullet styles perform, get out and do some handgun hunting. Most folks are quite shocked the first time they see how similar they all are.

Now can we awkward 'man-hug'?
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Old January 26, 2019, 03:00 PM   #32
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I think believing how a bullet performs in jello....err....umm....gelatin actually equates to how it behaves in living flesh, muscle, tissue, bone, etc, is incredibly naive. I also think ammunition manufacturers have grasped hold of the emotion people invest into watching such 'tests' and sucker people out of their hard earned money. More power to them, and more power to those that truly believe.

But as I've said many many times before, after half a century of hunting, culling, and duty, I've yet to see a common handgun service caliber projectile behave in 'ballistic gel' (natural or synthetic) the same or even similar to how it behaves in actual living tissue. It simply doesn't.

If you really want to see how closely the various calibers and bullet styles perform, get out and do some handgun hunting. Most folks are quite shocked the first time they see how similar they all are.

Now can we awkward 'man-hug'?
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I don't think it equates exactly, no. What it does is provide a medium for comparison between bullets that doesn't have the variations of living tissue. I'm not sure I "believe" in anything other than that. I take no issue with hunting or the experience from it. I'm okay without the hug, but if you need one there are some great outreach groups out there.

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Old January 26, 2019, 06:17 PM   #33
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Ran four or five different bullet types through my EZ, all ran fine.
No last-round problem anywhere.
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Old January 26, 2019, 07:30 PM   #34
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I keep asking and no one with these issues states if they sent in the pistols to S&W. You bought a product with a warranty, you're entitled to customer service and frankly quality control in the industry doesn't improve if you don't send it in and hold manufacturers accountable. An unreliable firearm is an expensive paperweight.

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Old January 26, 2019, 09:51 PM   #35
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No I have not called and it appears that neither has anyone else as you've asked this same question twice and now commented 3 times.

I do have one that is still sitting here on a recall and no I haven't sent it back yet and yes I knew about the problem before I purchased the gun and bought it anyways.
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Old January 26, 2019, 10:49 PM   #36
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I asked two different people, that was why I asked twice. The third was because people didn't respond, thank you for responding.

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Old January 27, 2019, 11:56 PM   #37
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I have had my EZ for about a year and shot quite a few rounds through it, the pistol has performed admirably and even taken some trapped feral hogs in Texas. I am one of those lucky enough to have arthritis in my hands but not significantly bad to keep me from racking most slides, still I like the easy shooting ability this little pistol provides.
I load all of my semi auto pistols with ball ammunition for it’s positive feeding and deep penetration. A 150 # hog will go down like a ton of brick fell on it. My EZ is normally outfitted with a light and used for house protection.w
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Old January 28, 2019, 12:21 AM   #38
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Ibmikey What ball ammo are you using?
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Old May 7, 2019, 09:40 AM   #39
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I bought my M&P 380 EZ thinking that it would be easier to use, considering that I have arthritis in my hand. I love the look and feel of the gun, but I don't like the grip safety. It seems like I have to have a death grip on it to make it fire. I was wondering if there is some what that I can build up the safety lever so that I won't have this problem. Thanks.
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Old May 8, 2019, 10:31 PM   #40
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I just bought an EZ a couple weeks ago, and I'm one of the lucky ones who has the stovepipe problems. Tried several different ammo types, they all do it in both magazines roughly 1/3 of the time.

On another forum some were able to fix the issue by placing a shim under the follower to put a little more tension on the spring. I tried this, and now instead of the last round stovepiping, it just ejects the last round out of the gun along with the 2nd to last spent casing.

I've contacted S&W and they want me to send it in. I'm a little hesitant since I'm thinking chances are low that they are going to resolve the problem(based off what I've read from others who have sent theirs in). S&W has sent some people new magazines and this has cured the problem for some.
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Old May 11, 2019, 06:37 AM   #41
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At my somewhat advanced age, I can appreciate the need for an easy to rack semi-auto, although fortunately so far I don't require that feature. What I don't underdstand is why the .380 Shield is a larger gun than the 9mm version
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At my somewhat advanced age, I can appreciate the need for an easy to rack semi-auto, although fortunately so far I don't require that feature. What I don't underdstand is why the .380 Shield is a larger gun than the 9mm version
Marketing, along with the name 'E-Z'..same for the Browning Black Label..nice gun, ala a '1911', but pretty large and .380(And I'm not bad mouthing the .380, really like it, have a G-42 and taurus M380)...but a 'Eazier' to operate and fire...
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Old May 12, 2019, 09:46 AM   #43
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I have used about every major brand of FMJ ammo in mine (no steel cases) without incident but normally carry Freedom Arms jacketed ammo with a flat nose (Texas pigs do not like this ammo). Not only my pistol runs without malfunctions but two of my friends have EZ pistols that also are completely reliable.
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