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Old Yesterday, 07:01 PM   #76
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I guess a dozen years ago there was a feud going on between two families here in mcdonald county. At least I think that it was mcdonald, everything about that place is nuts.

This feud went on for years. Police, search lights, vandalism, etc. Just neighborhood squabbles that are absolutely out of control. They both owned land down there. One day the hatfields were working outside and the mccoys drove up. Several of them drew out rifles and started shooting!

I don't know if they were actually shooting to hit or just laying down rounds to scare them. The hatfields ran like heck and hid behind a wagon or truck or something. These shots were coming from about forty yards. None of the targets had guns. The bad guys could have just walked up and popped them.

They should have been carrying, imo. The hatfields had shown that they were freakin nuts. If they had been carrying pistols and had trained for longer range, they would have been prepared if the nut squad had pursued them.

There is no reason to spend your entire life training at thirty feet, and that is all that some people do anymore. Anyone who expects to defend himself needs to practice the discipline and skills required for longer ranges, maybe up to thirty yards. Whatever else they accomplish, they will develop better handling skills and again, discipline.

You don't know what the future holds. So (maybe) you wear your seat belt, brush your teeth, own life insurance, and carry a gun. Carrying a gun isn't good enough, you need to know how to use it, and part of knowing how to use it is being proficient beyond hitting silhouettes at twenty feet.

For the record, you are being grotesquely negligent if your guns aren't sighted in properly. Yes, that is just my opinion. You may someday be called upon to shoot a rampaging rabid coyote that's trying to eat your chihuahua.
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Old Yesterday, 07:17 PM   #77
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I own a chihuahua?????
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Old Yesterday, 07:26 PM   #78
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We have an enormous casino here. As big as a vegas one. They have a swat team. Armed security guards.

They use my range sometimes to train. I've never seen anything more ridiculous than men training with rifles and even automatic weapons at 30-40 feet. The parking lot, where they would need rifles, covers an entire city block. Rapid fire Shooting at a silhouette with a rifle at forty feet isn't training.
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Old Yesterday, 07:28 PM   #79
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I own a chihuahua?????
Maybe it was a possum that I saw. If it's only a possum you don't need to shoot the coyote.
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We have an enormous casino here. As big as a vegas one. They have a swat team. Armed security guards.

They use my range sometimes to train. I've never seen anything more ridiculous than men training with rifles and even automatic weapons at 30-40 feet. The parking lot, where they would need rifles, covers an entire city block. Rapid fire Shooting at a silhouette with a rifle at forty feet isn't training.
Firstly it is training. Secondly just because that is what you saw them do does not mean that is all they did or do.
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Old Today, 09:38 AM   #81
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I don't know about most folks but I carry a 642 revolver, I'm pretty good with it out to 15 yards, 15 to 25 I keep them on an IDPA target, not all in the 0 down center tho. It ain't the same as shooting off a bench with a bullseye gun, it ain't even like precision pistol at 50 yards. If I were to get into a fire fight with 5 or 10 guys I'm a goner. 1 or 2 guys at 10 feet, I got a chance. Ain't no guarantees.................................
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Old Today, 11:43 AM   #82
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Pete2,

Your views are realistic and sound.

So get outta here!
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