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Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action,
with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt...ED
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Spearpoint ELR Roundup
Ride the wind in Kansas August 11 & 12, 2018 ELR match will be held at Spearpoint Ranch near Lincoln, Ks. Spearpoint $1000 Three Shot Challenge will be held Saturday Morning. ELR match will have 7 steel targets from 1500 yds out to 2900 yds. Competitors will fire 4 rounds at each target on each day for a total of 56 rounds. Scoring will emphasize first round hits with declining point values per attempt. Calibers up to and including .50 BMG welcome. All shooting will be from a prone position. Cost is $80 per shooter. An additional $20 for those wishing to try the Spearpoint Challenge
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Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU, Good pictures., Ed,...........www.585he.cz
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September 18, 2018, 09:36 PM | #54 |
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We tested intermediate action with a 700HE barrel we had here.
Just temporary to test strength. 1000 gr over 3100.. Action worked fine.. Ed.
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October 20, 2018, 06:09 PM | #55 |
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Here is video of early water barrel test of the
12ga From Hell, from years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk Here is picture from that video.. Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed
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November 23, 2018, 05:18 PM | #56 |
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In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long brass bullet 3800,
with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action, Ed
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December 5, 2018, 02:06 PM | #57 |
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Now my 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet to 3300.Ed
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January 3, 2019, 12:47 AM | #58 |
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Here is picture of our 416HSM cases with screw in shellholders,
for Ammomaster, etc, and slip in shellholders for regular presses Also have some for big LEE Classic and Smart Reloader presses.. A 378 WEA MAG in picture for comparison... Second is stacks of 416 HSM, about a third fireformed and the rest to be fireformed... So far total about 1700, Ed
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February 7, 2019, 02:10 PM | #59 |
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Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th....
He was an esteemed member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild, Being its president in 1992.. He liked working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles. Worked with guys testing armor long time ago. Maybe the 1st to do 20mm necked down to 50cal. We lost a great friend,,,Ed
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February 20, 2019, 09:48 PM | #60 |
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It is possible rig up holders for many types setups.,
About shellholder supply for big cases, RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases.. Here are various sizes........ 16ga-- .810" rim, 20ga-- .760" rim, 24ga .725" rim, 28ga .680" rim....
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April 6, 2019, 04:11 PM | #61 |
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We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed
surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck. It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us.. It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets, long target and bore rider bullets. Ed.. ....
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HERE is a video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion
750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAo1mJqw8Y
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July 20, 2019, 08:04 PM | #63 |
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20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having the sides made too thick...
They have thinner sides than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures. Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed......
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Must take a really good scope to see PDs at that range.
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Got guys doing various 416 HEs..
One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days.. And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges had same accuracy. Ed..
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November 24, 2019, 02:34 PM | #66 |
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More about our 416 HSM from BMG brass, and
our 416 HE & 460 HE from our 585 HE cases Got reamers for 375 HE, 416 HE and 416 HSM,.... 460 HE & 460 HSM are all spec'd, got HE reamer soon have HSM reamer...Our HSMs have a Wea type radius on the shoulder.. The fellow that set up our 416 HE in an ELR rifle and got 1/4 min accuracy, They got some game out west over 1400 yds.. .Here is the gun they set up. Using a K&P 34" barrel on a BAT action.....Ed
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November 27, 2019, 07:21 AM | #67 |
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And have got a 460 HSM figured out, and the impetus for that is some
asking about one and the great line of 458 bullets CEB now has. It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM.........Ed..
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January 23, 2020, 07:57 PM | #68 |
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The guys that did the super accurate 416 HE did another
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel.. Used a Stiller action and same load with 475 gr bullet, as in first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy. 3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa. And loads they used are not the highest speed loads the cartridge is capable of....Here is print with specs for the 416 HE reamer chamber ....Ed....
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February 11, 2020, 10:22 AM | #69 |
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More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel.. Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,. 3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa. And loads they used are not the highest speed loads the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture.......Ed....
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Here is print with chamber reamer specs for the 416 HSM chamber..There are 3 base sizes we have, depending on actions used.
Got reamers for all 3.. Got cases for all of them.. Our cases are public domain, so that is why I postinfo and specs. Manson makes reamers I use,,, Ed.
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Here is reamer print with chamber reamer specs for
the 460 HSM chamber .Couple guys getting set to do 38-40 inch heavy 458 target barrels...Ed.........
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August 21, 2020, 03:24 PM | #72 |
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With 40 inch barrel 416 HSM ,475 gr, get 3650, over 13,000 ft lbs muzzle energy.
Got guys getting set to have 38-40 inch 458 barrels for 460 HSM.Ed..
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More info on this gun, we did it for testing 416 HSM with a rebated rim,
to check in intermediate size actions, with longer, stronger, bolt lugs, Ed..
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September 22, 2020, 12:14 PM | #74 |
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Here is experimental action for 416 HSM in a heavy
stock....We lengthened port a little, set bolt stop back , opened bolt face fit the 416 HSM rebated rim. Ed. Here is comparison of Montana PH to Pierce action we modified to use for rebated rim 416 HSM testing..Ed.
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A shooter at our 100 yard range today...brought in his custom 47 pound bolt rifle, chambered in 375 ChevyTac; with a beautiful synthetic blue stock, blue barrel, outfitted with a massive blue muzzle brake.
He said: "Without handloading the round, the 375 ChevyTac costs $6.50 a round." His "new toy" consisted of a periscope that he attached to the front of his Nightforce ocular lens; that increased the riflescope's vertical range by 30 mils.
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