The WORST gun for home defense. - Page 2

gbclarkson · March 16, 2020, 08:37 AM

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I think it would be difficult to use a GE Minigun for self defense

Only Blain could do this.

- Predator reference -

MarkCO · March 16, 2020, 09:48 AM

Going to have to go with a muzzle loader.

dakota.potts · March 18, 2020, 02:22 PM

For extra irony points, I'm going to go with Cobray's Lady's Home Companion.

Basically a Cobray street sweeper pistol (no stock or foregrip) rifled and chambered in .45-70. Eight pound total weight. Horrendous trigger. Low magazine capacity. Chambered in a cartridge fit for buffalo. I believe it fails to meet the "Lady", "Home", AND "Companion" attributes its name would imply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TygqLGNnXJE

muzzleblast... · March 18, 2020, 03:14 PM

I'm thinking a Ma-Duece would have limited home defense application... at least within the confines of four walls... :-O

Scorch · March 18, 2020, 04:06 PM

The worst? Easy. An empty one. Because if you pull it out to scare somebody off, you might need to use it if they don't scare well.

TXAZ · March 18, 2020, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorch

The worst? Easy. An empty one. Because if you pull it out to scare somebody off, you might need to use it if they don't scare well.

Not necessarily, as long as they don't know it's unloaded and think you're somewhere between serious and crazy. I stopped 2 burglars with a 40" club that looked amazingly like a Remington Model 11 1905 Automatic shotgun.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...70&postcount=6

TXAZ · March 18, 2020, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by muzzleblast...

I'm thinking a Ma-Duece would have limited home defense application... at least within the confines of four walls... :-O

If you want to stop the riff raff in SUV-to-LAV's at 600 yards, it's ideal with Mk211 rounds.

SHR970 · March 18, 2020, 05:31 PM

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pelo801 wrote:Any carbine length 30-ish cal surplus rifle, bolt or not.

The M1 carbine with Speer #1835 H.P. or a proper soft point negates that opinion. Jim Cirillo proved that time and time over in real life with soft point ammunition.

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Kevin Rohrer wrote: Any handgun whose caliber does not begin w/ a "4" or larger.

Your 40 Short & Wimpy vs. 357 Magnum with 125 gr. JHP...any flavor. Yeah...you and everyone else who makes that statement continue to propogate a serious falsehood.

I'll go with the gun with the trigger lock on in a Ca. approved gun safe with the ammunition stored in another location. OR the U.K. method of gun locked in a safe semi disassembled with the ammunition locked in another location.

zxcvbob · March 18, 2020, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dakota.potts

For extra irony points, I'm going to go with Cobray's Lady's Home Companion.

Basically a Cobray street sweeper pistol (no stock or foregrip) rifled and chambered in .45-70. Eight pound total weight. Horrendous trigger. Low magazine capacity. Chambered in a cartridge fit for buffalo. I believe it fails to meet the "Lady", "Home", AND "Companion" attributes its name would imply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TygqLGNnXJE

.45-70?

I've actually heard of that gun (I think) but I thought it was a .410

rc · March 18, 2020, 08:46 PM

Airsoft with a distinctive orange tip!

7.62 man · March 18, 2020, 08:59 PM

The worst gun for home defense is one that don't fire all the time or one you have hidden back so far you can't get to it easily.
If someone has a gun to your daughter's head even a gun that over penetrates is a good gun. I would take a chance of hitting something not intended than watch my daughter die.
A gun you can't depend on is a risk & a gun you can't easily reach is useless.

norcalAF · March 19, 2020, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dakota.potts

For extra irony points, I'm going to go with Cobray's Lady's Home Companion.

Basically a Cobray street sweeper pistol (no stock or foregrip) rifled and chambered in .45-70. Eight pound total weight. Horrendous trigger. Low magazine capacity. Chambered in a cartridge fit for buffalo. I believe it fails to meet the "Lady", "Home", AND "Companion" attributes its name would imply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TygqLGNnXJE

I'd like to give that a whirl! Looks like fun.

Zorro · March 20, 2020, 09:25 AM

Honestly LASERS!

Anything powerful enough blinds you instantly without eye protection that more or less makes you blind.

MarkCO · March 20, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorro

Honestly LASERS!

Anything powerful enough blinds you instantly without eye protection that more or less makes you blind.

Someone has been watching too many Superhero movies.

DadOfThree · March 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

My Gyrojet

spacemanspiff · March 20, 2020, 04:05 PM

This guy Joe, I heard him say that an AR is too difficult to use and too hard to hit any target with it.

So, any of those EBRs that look all scary have GOT to be the worst!

pelo801 · March 20, 2020, 08:53 PM

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The M1 carbine with Speer #1835 H.P. or a proper soft point negates that opinion. Jim Cirillo proved that time and time over in real life with soft point ammunition.

I'm not saying it wouldnt be effective. But I wouldnt prefer to maneuver and/or fire one inside. That was what I was getting at.

littlebikerider · March 21, 2020, 09:36 AM

I had a .25 ACP pistol once, a Jennings maybe, that was gutless and thoroughly unreliable. I suspect that, if it actually went off, it would only provoke an evildoer. At least if I had a heavy Airgun I could use it for a club...

TXAZ · March 21, 2020, 10:22 AM

This might be worse: It requires an extension cord capable of handling 1/4 Megawatt to run continuously:

https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-conten...o-1024x580.jpg

March 16, 2020, 09:48 AM	#27
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	Going to have to go with a muzzle loader. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

March 18, 2020, 02:22 PM	#28
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	For extra irony points, I'm going to go with Cobray's Lady's Home Companion. Basically a Cobray street sweeper pistol (no stock or foregrip) rifled and chambered in .45-70. Eight pound total weight. Horrendous trigger. Low magazine capacity. Chambered in a cartridge fit for buffalo. I believe it fails to meet the "Lady", "Home", AND "Companion" attributes its name would imply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TygqLGNnXJE __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

March 18, 2020, 04:06 PM	#30
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	The worst? Easy. An empty one. Because if you pull it out to scare somebody off, you might need to use it if they don't scare well. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

March 20, 2020, 12:33 PM	#40
DadOfThree Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2001 Location: Upland, indiana Posts: 409	My Gyrojet __________________ Christian, American, Heterosexual, Pro-gun Conservative. Any Questions? James Madison: The Constitution preserves "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. Mark Douglass

March 20, 2020, 04:05 PM	#41
spacemanspiff Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: alaska Posts: 3,498	This guy Joe, I heard him say that an AR is too difficult to use and too hard to hit any target with it. So, any of those EBRs that look all scary have GOT to be the worst! __________________ "Every man alone is sincere; at the entrance of a second person hypocrisy begins." - Ralph Waldo Emerson "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." - Soren Kierkegaard

March 18, 2020, 03:14 PM	#29
muzzleblast... Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2015 Location: Obwat, TN Posts: 285	I'm thinking a Ma-Duece would have limited home defense application... at least within the confines of four walls... :-O

March 18, 2020, 08:46 PM	#35
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,763	Airsoft with a distinctive orange tip!

March 18, 2020, 08:59 PM	#36
7.62 man Senior Member Join Date: April 30, 2009 Location: Cyber-world USA Posts: 258	The worst gun for home defense is one that don't fire all the time or one you have hidden back so far you can't get to it easily. If someone has a gun to your daughter's head even a gun that over penetrates is a good gun. I would take a chance of hitting something not intended than watch my daughter die. A gun you can't depend on is a risk & a gun you can't easily reach is useless.

March 20, 2020, 09:25 AM	#38
Zorro Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2000 Posts: 1,072	Honestly LASERS! Anything powerful enough blinds you instantly without eye protection that more or less makes you blind.

March 21, 2020, 09:36 AM	#43
littlebikerider Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 131	I had a .25 ACP pistol once, a Jennings maybe, that was gutless and thoroughly unreliable. I suspect that, if it actually went off, it would only provoke an evildoer. At least if I had a heavy Airgun I could use it for a club...

March 21, 2020, 10:22 AM	#44
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	This might be worse: It requires an extension cord capable of handling 1/4 Megawatt to run continuously: https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-conten...o-1024x580.jpg __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

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