What's wrong with Savage Rimfires?

tINY · January 1, 2010, 07:47 PM

I thought it was just the Mako I bought with the funky stock. It didn't initially shoot too well. I checked the stock fit and the barrel was pressed up against the fore end pretty good, so I pillar bedded it and did what I could to get a good bedding on that weird, round recoil lug...

So, I was looking at model 93s (on sale this week) and the BTVS model had an uneven contact between barrel and stock near the front of the stock...

So, is it something inherent in the design (I had assumed that factory stocks would have a v-block of some sort for the round lug)?

Or maybe it's the Canadians putting these things together?

Anybody else have a heavy barrel Savage rimfire with not-quite-free-floated barrels?

-tINY

Jimro · January 1, 2010, 11:27 PM

Both Savage rimfires I've owned weren't quite free floated.

Jimro

bigautomatic · January 2, 2010, 09:02 AM

tiny- Yep. I recently picked up a Mark II, and the last inch of the forend was touching the right side of the barrel. After finding this, I went back and looked at four others (same rifle), and all of them had the same area touching the barrel. So I decided to bed it, BUT, I hadn't even fired it yet. I fired two boxes (of 50) of Wolf match rifle, and it shoots bugholes with that ammo, sans bedding. But the stock touching the barrel still annoys me even though it is shooting well for now. I figure I'll fix it if/when it becomes a problem, I guess.

thallub · January 2, 2010, 09:34 AM

The barrel of my Savage model 93L is fully floated. Maybe Savage does a better job on left hand guns.

tINY · January 2, 2010, 01:24 PM

The 93G seemed to be alright, as did the 93F...

Was that South Paw a B, G, or F?

-tINY

9x19 · January 2, 2010, 04:43 PM

Both of mine are the less-expensive synthetic stocked models, but they have been good shooters. The fore-ends have some flex, but if that really bothers you, a bit of epoxy and a short length of aluminum angle can fix it quick.

I've no complaints with accuracy.

Savage Mark II FV (.17 HM2) with a Nikon 2x-7x 32mm scope

Savage 93R17 FV (.17 HMR) with a Nikon 2x-7x 32mm scope

tINY · January 2, 2010, 04:55 PM

Maybe that's the trick:

Most of the time, it doesn't affect accuracy, so Savage doesn't worry about it.

-tINY

MacGille · January 2, 2010, 05:39 PM

My 9317 bvss will shoot one tiny hole at 100 yds. I dont care about the bedding, I'm not going to change a thing.

shepherddogs · January 2, 2010, 07:58 PM

I've got a BTVS that's free floated with lots of room to spare and it shoots good. I bought my kid the 93 FVSS with the composite stock. Let me just say it ain't no HS Precision. You can hold it one way and it passes the dollar bill test. Rest it on sandbags and the barrel will touch the stock. It really is a disappointment to shoot. It will put 2 in the same hole and then throw a 2 1/2 inch flyer. We just got a laminated stock for it and it is much sturdier and is free floated. We haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. It makes you wonder why Savage would put out such a flimsy piece of crap. How much more would it have cost them to make the stock a little stiffer? 50 cents worth of plastic?

preventec47 · January 5, 2010, 05:55 PM

I have a Savage Mark II and all I did to get the barrel off the
forearm was to put washers between the front part of the action
and the stock. That jacked the barrel up about an eighth of an inch.

Why dont you give it a try

Uncle H · January 5, 2010, 06:09 PM

My 93FSS is a good shooter (.22 WMR). I haven't messed with it at all with the exception of adding a 3X9 scope (Bushnell I think)

I've never checked to float but I suppose now I'll have to.

January 1, 2010, 07:47 PM	#1
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	What's wrong with Savage Rimfires? I thought it was just the Mako I bought with the funky stock. It didn't initially shoot too well. I checked the stock fit and the barrel was pressed up against the fore end pretty good, so I pillar bedded it and did what I could to get a good bedding on that weird, round recoil lug... So, I was looking at model 93s (on sale this week) and the BTVS model had an uneven contact between barrel and stock near the front of the stock... So, is it something inherent in the design (I had assumed that factory stocks would have a v-block of some sort for the round lug)? Or maybe it's the Canadians putting these things together? Anybody else have a heavy barrel Savage rimfire with not-quite-free-floated barrels? -tINY

January 1, 2010, 11:27 PM	#2
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Both Savage rimfires I've owned weren't quite free floated. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

January 2, 2010, 04:43 PM	#6
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,750	Both of mine are the less-expensive synthetic stocked models, but they have been good shooters. The fore-ends have some flex, but if that really bothers you, a bit of epoxy and a short length of aluminum angle can fix it quick. I've no complaints with accuracy. Savage Mark II FV (.17 HM2) with a Nikon 2x-7x 32mm scope Savage 93R17 FV (.17 HMR) with a Nikon 2x-7x 32mm scope __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

January 2, 2010, 05:39 PM	#8
MacGille Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2006 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 976	My 9317 bvss will shoot one tiny hole at 100 yds. I dont care about the bedding, I'm not going to change a thing. __________________ If ye love wealth better than Liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animated contest of Freedom, go from us in Peace. We ask not your counsel or Arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. --Samuel Adams--<*ixoye><

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January 2, 2010, 09:02 AM	#3
bigautomatic Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 610	tiny- Yep. I recently picked up a Mark II, and the last inch of the forend was touching the right side of the barrel. After finding this, I went back and looked at four others (same rifle), and all of them had the same area touching the barrel. So I decided to bed it, BUT, I hadn't even fired it yet. I fired two boxes (of 50) of Wolf match rifle, and it shoots bugholes with that ammo, sans bedding. But the stock touching the barrel still annoys me even though it is shooting well for now. I figure I'll fix it if/when it becomes a problem, I guess.

January 2, 2010, 09:34 AM	#4
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	The barrel of my Savage model 93L is fully floated. Maybe Savage does a better job on left hand guns.

January 2, 2010, 01:24 PM	#5
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	The 93G seemed to be alright, as did the 93F... Was that South Paw a B, G, or F? -tINY

January 2, 2010, 04:55 PM	#7
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	Maybe that's the trick: Most of the time, it doesn't affect accuracy, so Savage doesn't worry about it. -tINY

January 2, 2010, 07:58 PM	#9
shepherddogs Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2007 Posts: 1,007	I've got a BTVS that's free floated with lots of room to spare and it shoots good. I bought my kid the 93 FVSS with the composite stock. Let me just say it ain't no HS Precision. You can hold it one way and it passes the dollar bill test. Rest it on sandbags and the barrel will touch the stock. It really is a disappointment to shoot. It will put 2 in the same hole and then throw a 2 1/2 inch flyer. We just got a laminated stock for it and it is much sturdier and is free floated. We haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. It makes you wonder why Savage would put out such a flimsy piece of crap. How much more would it have cost them to make the stock a little stiffer? 50 cents worth of plastic?

January 5, 2010, 05:55 PM	#10
preventec47 Junior member Join Date: October 13, 2008 Posts: 104	I have a Savage Mark II and all I did to get the barrel off the forearm was to put washers between the front part of the action and the stock. That jacked the barrel up about an eighth of an inch. Why dont you give it a try

January 5, 2010, 06:09 PM	#11
Uncle H Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2008 Location: Bristol, TN Posts: 102	My 93FSS is a good shooter (.22 WMR). I haven't messed with it at all with the exception of adding a 3X9 scope (Bushnell I think) I've never checked to float but I suppose now I'll have to.