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July 4, 2011, 04:33 PM | #51 | ||
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July 4, 2011, 05:47 PM | #52 | |
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In my own state interest on unpaid court costs and fines accrues at 12%. http://www.seattlepi.com/local/artic...ng-1177525.php So, many ex-felons face a financial burden that they can't overcome. Lack of wealth shouldn't be a bar to the rights of citizenship. |
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July 4, 2011, 06:26 PM | #53 | ||
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Just how much are your court fees to petition the court?
I see the article cited is for felons who have done time but NOT paid their debt to society. Quote:
So now folks are trying to get rights restored for those who haven't even paid their debt to society? Maybe next we can get their rights restored while still in prison too? Quote:
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July 4, 2011, 09:55 PM | #54 |
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is the money owed for restitution or to a victim?
If a guy has served his time and has truly turned his life around I could support him getting his rights back including 2A rights. If the person owes money as restitution or to a victim or to the state then I would agree with him getting his rights back as long as he makes payments that are reasonable based on his income. If he refuses to make payments without some kind of legal relief then his rights should be suspended if he has the means to make payments. Then after a period they could be terminated for refusal to pay if you have the means. If you havent paid what you owe then you haven't completed your punishmnet.
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July 5, 2011, 06:55 AM | #55 | ||
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Your brother did a crime. The penalties for the crime were established prior to the crime; however, as we see over and over, criminals do not think about what happens when they get caught as they typically believe they won't get caught. Maybe you should be arguing that his particular crime shouldn't be a felony, not that his felony wasn't "felonious enough" to warrant him losing his rights Quote:
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July 5, 2011, 07:36 AM | #56 |
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Is a poor decision made in your youth nullified by time? No. How many remember the great debate in the 60s and 70s regarding the change in the age of majority from 21 to 18? The pro-18 argument was "they can be drafted but can't vote". Maybe, the argument should have been "when they hit 21 they can serve". It's still about freedom...of choice. An old acquaintance of mine said "beyond childbirth, defending your life and CPR you always have time to think about it and get counsel". Perhaps, the OPs stated case didn't know this, that's a parenting issue. I learned this lesson from my Dad. If you aren't so sure you're willing to gamble your life on it maybe you shouldn't do it. If you do it's your right and responsibility/accountability.
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July 5, 2011, 10:21 AM | #57 | |
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Of course, there is the practical downside that giving guns to prisoners just isn't very bright at all, is it?
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