Do you carry at home - Why do people feel safe at home? - Page 9

bobthewelder · May 1, 2008, 05:40 PM

Our law states that if over 50% of the establishments income is derived from alcohol sales, it is illegal to carry in that establishment anyhow. If you go to a private party and drink while carrying, you are breaking the law. Our first incident of any kind with CCW (this is our first year) was a DUI on a motorcycle. Didn't matter that his weapon was in the saddle bag, he lost both his permit and his gun, not to mention his operators license.

geterdun444 · May 2, 2008, 11:59 AM

Well bob drinking is a no no with any firearm permited or not. But I realy think mixing stupid with a firearm is way nore critical

bobthewelder · May 2, 2008, 04:46 PM

Our second offender is in the paper today. He decided that he would go out in his back yard and practice on a bucket. BTW, he lives in the city, in a housing addition. He's not a very good shot either, when officers arrived they found shell casings and one hole in the bucket. I doubt the Colt Drfender was to blame.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/do...9794055674.txt

Mainah · May 2, 2008, 06:14 PM

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I would be curious to know what a person's chance of facing a home invasion truely is...I am willing to bet it is not substantially less than their chance of using a firearm in SD during their daily activities. I am betting both very unlikely and the difference would be mathematically and practically insignificant.

I agree. I don't carry at home, I'm not making any judgements about those who do, but I don't. My greatest fear is coming home and looking down the barrel of my 870 because I interrupted the neighborhood tweaker while he was ransacking my house.

So I tend to focus on securing my guns with locks more than anything.

geterdun444 · May 2, 2008, 06:24 PM

Well bob sounds to me like I would seriously be thinking of where I was living. Or being dam sure something was in reach.
As for leaving weapons at home unsecured well I dont tink thats a realy good thing.
I am of the thinking that if you are leagaly able to purchase firearms then you are legaly and moraly obligated to make sure they are kept in a manner that will not harm anyone else

bobthewelder · May 2, 2008, 10:40 PM

geterdun44, I live in a nice part of a town of about 230,000. Where did the unsecured weapons thing come from? My weapons are always secured as I have two children 6-8 in the house. You have lost me, I know i'ts Friday night, so time for YOU to lock up yor guns obviously.

Th0r · May 3, 2008, 07:52 PM

I don't carry at home, nor outside. As the law in the UK prevents me from doing so...

Personally I don't quite see the point in carrying at home. Yea, it might save you on occasion but I think it would cause more trouble that it is worth to be honest.

Why?

Because it creates an unnecessary sense of tension and paranoia.

What I do understand is having a gun around, within easy access so that one can defend him or herself.

alfred · May 3, 2008, 08:02 PM

Now that I realize that we have lawyers and law school graduates on here I realize why I am seeing some of the things that I read!

Laughing is extremely painful for me.You folks are truly keeping me in tears from the pain.You are worth it.I cannot think of a better way to die!

The funniest are the ones who appear to take their selves serious.I have been accused of being one who would argue with a fence post.Well.I think some of you have me beat.

Some of my medication leaves me somewhat addled and confused.Much of this thread makes more sense to me when I am addled and confused and much less when I am off of my Medication and straight.I do wonder what some of you are on.

Thanks to all.This is the best entertainment that I can find.You folk are great for this shut-in.

Please keep up the great work!

I AIN'T DEAD AND I AIN'T QUITTING!alfred

DonR101395 · May 3, 2008, 08:03 PM

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Because it creates an unnecessary sense of tension and paranoia.

Why is that? I do it all the time and never feel tense or paranoid, neither does my wife, neither did my kids before they grew up and moved out.

Edward429451 · May 3, 2008, 09:32 PM

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Because it creates an unnecessary sense of tension and paranoia.

I felt a little hyper-aware of carrying a gun for ~2 weeks when I first started carrying, after that it just feels the same as carrying a bic lighter or a pocket knife, nothing, just there if I need it.

Playboypenguin · May 3, 2008, 09:37 PM

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I felt a little hyper-aware of carrying a gun for ~2 weeks when I first started carrying, after that it just feels the same as carrying a bic lighter or a pocket knife, nothing, just there if I need it.

Same here. I am not sure what took longer. Becoming physically comfortable with carrying or psychologically comfortable.

Desertscout1 · May 3, 2008, 09:41 PM

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Because it creates an unnecessary sense of tension and paranoia.

That has GOT to the dumbest thing I've ever heard!

bobthewelder · May 3, 2008, 10:24 PM

Desertscout1, reverse it and it makes perfect sense! You carry at home due to a sense of tension and paranoia. Send all unused Valium to Alfred.

geterdun444 · May 4, 2008, 05:46 AM

Well bob the unsceured weapons comment was actualy aimed at someone else. It was my bad to not include the name it was not aimed at you.
I live in a nice small town of about 35 thousand quite a bit different fron your size.
We do have our own set of problems tho. With opening day for turkey season the police were just picking up a bunch of out of staters that come up here to hunt. They see a resident carrying and automaticaly think they can also. Problem being is they dont have permits to carry. They lose thier weapons, and also thier right to ever own a gun again also that big money they just paid for thier license to hunt.

Desertscout1 · May 4, 2008, 08:17 AM

Must be tough to have to get a permit to open carry.

thrgunsmith · May 4, 2008, 09:03 AM

It hurt and it sucked, statistically I'm probably never going to have to face that again.
Still, I carry nearly all the time, if I'm dressed I am packing.
I'm sure some consider that paranoia.
I do not base my personal decisions on other peoples opinions.
I moved away from NY and CA to a place where I can freely enjoy my rights, to me it is a matter of choice, I know a gentleman who is a great shot, a competitive level pistol marksman and a truly great rifle expert as well.
He never carries.
He doesn't care that I always carry, I could care less that he doesn't.

If you are concerned about me carrying a gun at home, please stay up all night worrying about it, write your political representative, gnash your teeth, pull your hair out...just keep me out of it!

bobthewelder · May 4, 2008, 12:01 PM

Worry about it, naw. I suppose if I moved from Harlem to SanFrancisco I might carry at home as well.

geterdun444 · May 4, 2008, 04:16 PM

Desertscout here you can walk down the street with a long gun but pistols are a big no no unless you have your permit. My opinion is a motivate person with a long gun can do a hell of alot more damage than a similarly motivated person with a pistol.

alfred · May 4, 2008, 05:30 PM

Please keep your Valium.From your post,I believe you are in far more need of it than I am.I have been promised all of the "Morphine that I will need when I think I need it".I have been and will stay away from such as long as possible.

Besides,I heard Valium was for folk with problems.I have never had a problem that I can remember.Now I have been accused of "being the problem" many times.To me this means that others have a problem,not me.I do not believe that you can have a problem unless you allow something to be a problem to you.

I would just turn the Valium over to my local police department as I don't have a prescription.They would most likely turn it over to the feds,trace it back and bite the donor.

I hope that they do not read your post and arrest us all for unlawfully attempting to distribute prescription drugs or such on here.

I was once in jail and facing 105 years for "Saying NO to Drugs".It cost me thousands.The Crooked Cop was allowed to resign and I was promised that he would never work in law enforcement again.They lied!A few months later he was back a cop somewhere else and being charged with RAPE.The last I heard he was selling used cars.As for me,I have to go through the crap every time I renew my permit.Why?Because every one including my lawyer claimed it was someone else's job to straighten it out!My piece of paper from the prosecutor saying that "the witness admitted lying" and that they "believe the charges to be false" is just a piece of paper.

Thanks,but once was enough for me!

I AIN'T DEAD AND I AIN'T QUITTING!alfred

**JohnKSa** · May 5, 2008, 12:07 AM

Ok, I think this one's done. PMs to follow for some lucky participants.

May 2, 2008, 11:59 AM	#202
geterdun444 Member Join Date: April 27, 2008 Location: new hampshire Posts: 21	Well bob drinking is a no no with any firearm permited or not. But I realy think mixing stupid with a firearm is way nore critical __________________ Moderation is for Monks Live Life to the fullest take big bites Get er Dun

May 2, 2008, 06:24 PM	#205
geterdun444 Member Join Date: April 27, 2008 Location: new hampshire Posts: 21	Well bob sounds to me like I would seriously be thinking of where I was living. Or being dam sure something was in reach. As for leaving weapons at home unsecured well I dont tink thats a realy good thing. I am of the thinking that if you are leagaly able to purchase firearms then you are legaly and moraly obligated to make sure they are kept in a manner that will not harm anyone else __________________ Moderation is for Monks Live Life to the fullest take big bites Get er Dun

May 3, 2008, 08:02 PM	#208
alfred Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2008 Location: Pembroke,Georgia Posts: 149	What a way to go! Now that I realize that we have lawyers and law school graduates on here I realize why I am seeing some of the things that I read! Laughing is extremely painful for me.You folks are truly keeping me in tears from the pain.You are worth it.I cannot think of a better way to die! The funniest are the ones who appear to take their selves serious.I have been accused of being one who would argue with a fence post.Well.I think some of you have me beat. Some of my medication leaves me somewhat addled and confused.Much of this thread makes more sense to me when I am addled and confused and much less when I am off of my Medication and straight.I do wonder what some of you are on. Thanks to all.This is the best entertainment that I can find.You folk are great for this shut-in. Please keep up the great work! I AIN'T DEAD AND I AIN'T QUITTING!alfred

May 4, 2008, 05:46 AM	#214
geterdun444 Member Join Date: April 27, 2008 Location: new hampshire Posts: 21	Well bob the unsceured weapons comment was actualy aimed at someone else. It was my bad to not include the name it was not aimed at you. I live in a nice small town of about 35 thousand quite a bit different fron your size. We do have our own set of problems tho. With opening day for turkey season the police were just picking up a bunch of out of staters that come up here to hunt. They see a resident carrying and automaticaly think they can also. Problem being is they dont have permits to carry. They lose thier weapons, and also thier right to ever own a gun again also that big money they just paid for thier license to hunt. __________________ Moderation is for Monks Live Life to the fullest take big bites Get er Dun

May 4, 2008, 08:17 AM	#215
Desertscout1 Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2004 Location: NM Posts: 421	Must be tough to have to get a permit to open carry. __________________ Desertscout Southwest Shooting Authority Colts and Kimbers are what you show your friends. Glocks are what you show your enemies.

May 1, 2008, 05:40 PM	#201
bobthewelder Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Posts: 51	Our law states that if over 50% of the establishments income is derived from alcohol sales, it is illegal to carry in that establishment anyhow. If you go to a private party and drink while carrying, you are breaking the law. Our first incident of any kind with CCW (this is our first year) was a DUI on a motorcycle. Didn't matter that his weapon was in the saddle bag, he lost both his permit and his gun, not to mention his operators license.

May 2, 2008, 04:46 PM	#203
bobthewelder Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Posts: 51	Our second offender is in the paper today. He decided that he would go out in his back yard and practice on a bucket. BTW, he lives in the city, in a housing addition. He's not a very good shot either, when officers arrived they found shell casings and one hole in the bucket. I doubt the Colt Drfender was to blame. http://journalstar.com/news/local/do...9794055674.txt

May 2, 2008, 10:40 PM	#206
bobthewelder Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Posts: 51	geterdun44, I live in a nice part of a town of about 230,000. Where did the unsecured weapons thing come from? My weapons are always secured as I have two children 6-8 in the house. You have lost me, I know i'ts Friday night, so time for YOU to lock up yor guns obviously.

May 3, 2008, 07:52 PM	#207
Th0r Member Join Date: January 15, 2008 Location: The Not So United Kingdom Posts: 55	I don't carry at home, nor outside. As the law in the UK prevents me from doing so... Personally I don't quite see the point in carrying at home. Yea, it might save you on occasion but I think it would cause more trouble that it is worth to be honest. Why? Because it creates an unnecessary sense of tension and paranoia. What I do understand is having a gun around, within easy access so that one can defend him or herself.

May 3, 2008, 10:24 PM	#213
bobthewelder Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Posts: 51	Desertscout1, reverse it and it makes perfect sense! You carry at home due to a sense of tension and paranoia. Send all unused Valium to Alfred.

May 4, 2008, 09:03 AM	#216
thrgunsmith Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 196	I have already been stabbed during a home invasion It hurt and it sucked, statistically I'm probably never going to have to face that again. Still, I carry nearly all the time, if I'm dressed I am packing. I'm sure some consider that paranoia. I do not base my personal decisions on other peoples opinions. I moved away from NY and CA to a place where I can freely enjoy my rights, to me it is a matter of choice, I know a gentleman who is a great shot, a competitive level pistol marksman and a truly great rifle expert as well. He never carries. He doesn't care that I always carry, I could care less that he doesn't. If you are concerned about me carrying a gun at home, please stay up all night worrying about it, write your political representative, gnash your teeth, pull your hair out...just keep me out of it! __________________ R.I.P Sam "Trout" Barbetta 82nd Airborne, S.F biker, friend. http://www.ahalenia.com/memorial/sbarbetta.html

May 4, 2008, 12:01 PM	#217
bobthewelder Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Posts: 51	Worry about it, naw. I suppose if I moved from Harlem to SanFrancisco I might carry at home as well.

May 4, 2008, 04:16 PM	#218
geterdun444 Member Join Date: April 27, 2008 Location: new hampshire Posts: 21	Desertscout here you can walk down the street with a long gun but pistols are a big no no unless you have your permit. My opinion is a motivate person with a long gun can do a hell of alot more damage than a similarly motivated person with a pistol. __________________ Moderation is for Monks Live Life to the fullest take big bites Get er Dun

May 4, 2008, 05:30 PM	#219
alfred Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2008 Location: Pembroke,Georgia Posts: 149	To bobthewelder Please keep your Valium.From your post,I believe you are in far more need of it than I am.I have been promised all of the "Morphine that I will need when I think I need it".I have been and will stay away from such as long as possible. Besides,I heard Valium was for folk with problems.I have never had a problem that I can remember.Now I have been accused of "being the problem" many times.To me this means that others have a problem,not me.I do not believe that you can have a problem unless you allow something to be a problem to you. I would just turn the Valium over to my local police department as I don't have a prescription.They would most likely turn it over to the feds,trace it back and bite the donor. I hope that they do not read your post and arrest us all for unlawfully attempting to distribute prescription drugs or such on here. I was once in jail and facing 105 years for "Saying NO to Drugs".It cost me thousands.The Crooked Cop was allowed to resign and I was promised that he would never work in law enforcement again.They lied!A few months later he was back a cop somewhere else and being charged with RAPE.The last I heard he was selling used cars.As for me,I have to go through the crap every time I renew my permit.Why?Because every one including my lawyer claimed it was someone else's job to straighten it out!My piece of paper from the prosecutor saying that "the witness admitted lying" and that they "believe the charges to be false" is just a piece of paper. Thanks,but once was enough for me! I AIN'T DEAD AND I AIN'T QUITTING!alfred

May 5, 2008, 12:07 AM	#220
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,975	Ok, I think this one's done. PMs to follow for some lucky participants. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?