Marlin 336 Action Wrench...

FrankenMauser · November 18, 2013, 11:37 PM

The internet is full of people claiming to be gunsmiths, saying they use a 24" or 36" adjustable wrench for Marlin 336, Marlin 1895, and Savage 99 actions, because it works great (with a blocked action) and doesn't require the setup time of a standard action wrench.

Are there any gunsmiths here that actually use an adjustable wrench on Marlin actions?

Scorch · November 19, 2013, 01:50 AM

You know, I am actually scared to hear the answers on this one. I don't, but I bet there are some who do!

Gunplummer · November 19, 2013, 05:52 AM

I milled out my own wrench. Take a look how thin the side walls are on a 99. Why not go all the way and use a pipe wrench with grippers so it doesn't slip?

g.willikers · November 19, 2013, 08:50 AM

You mean using the correct tool, instead of just chucking that action in a large vise?
Preferably one with those nice, grippy jaws?
What's this world coming to - is there no ingenuity left?

semi_problomatic · November 19, 2013, 01:03 PM

You joke but:

Last week my brother asked me if I was ever going to build this rifle, and I told him now was as good a time as any. First I had to get the barrel off. Since I wasn't too concerned about saving the 30-30 barrel (and my brother suggested removing it with any means necessary), I clamped the receiver in a large vise between two 1/2" steel plates, and used Mr. Pipewrench to remove the barrel. I initially tried to remove the barrel without causing any damage, but I don't own a barrel vise, and it was on there pretty tight after 60 years of use. NOTE- I checked the barrel vises in Brownell's, and I think I have enough chunks of steel laying around to build one, which will be a future project.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...n-336A-project

FrankenMauser · November 19, 2013, 03:29 PM

That's what I expected, but I had to ask.
I have a 336 project on the table right now, that I've been researching some finish options for, and it was just bugging me that I kept running across all of these "gunsmiths" using BFWs as action wrenches. I just couldn't see any real gunsmith skipping their action wrench, in favor of a floppy-jawed adjustable wrench.

semi_problomatic,
I have removed a barrel with a pipe wrench, as well (from my namesake "Frankenstein" Mauser). But... I had absolutely no plans to save it. I use it as a breaker bar/pry bar in the shop, now.

I wouldn't have used a pipe wrench on the barrel you pulled, but I won't criticize you for it, either.

semi_problomatic · November 19, 2013, 07:44 PM

*sigh*

I gotta figure out the quotes thing. *I* didn't use a pipe wrench. The guy in the link I posted did. I just copied a paragraph and posted the link it came from.

FrankenMauser · November 20, 2013, 01:17 AM

I see.

guncrank · November 20, 2013, 09:44 PM

I use the Brownells action wrench and
Use the blank block for flat sided actions like Marlins.

Clark · December 12, 2013, 04:43 PM

I KNOW I have used a big Crescent wrench on a Sav 99, but a search does not find a pic.

But I do see pics of me using a wrench on a Colt revolver and a Uberti 1885.

When doing something this Mickey Mouse, duck tape adds a nice touch.

FrankenMauser · December 12, 2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

When doing something this Mickey Mouse, duck tape adds a nice touch.

Gunplummer · December 16, 2013, 01:16 AM

CLARK, I took notice you used a barrel vise.

November 18, 2013, 11:37 PM	#1
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Marlin 336 Action Wrench... The internet is full of people claiming to be gunsmiths, saying they use a 24" or 36" adjustable wrench for Marlin 336, Marlin 1895, and Savage 99 actions, because it works great (with a blocked action) and doesn't require the setup time of a standard action wrench. Are there any gunsmiths here that actually use an adjustable wrench on Marlin actions? __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

November 19, 2013, 01:50 AM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	You know, I am actually scared to hear the answers on this one. I don't, but I bet there are some who do! __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

November 19, 2013, 08:50 AM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	You mean using the correct tool, instead of just chucking that action in a large vise? Preferably one with those nice, grippy jaws? What's this world coming to - is there no ingenuity left? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

November 19, 2013, 01:03 PM	#5
semi_problomatic Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Location: Ft. Polk Posts: 883	You joke but: Last week my brother asked me if I was ever going to build this rifle, and I told him now was as good a time as any. First I had to get the barrel off. Since I wasn't too concerned about saving the 30-30 barrel (and my brother suggested removing it with any means necessary), I clamped the receiver in a large vise between two 1/2" steel plates, and used Mr. Pipewrench to remove the barrel. I initially tried to remove the barrel without causing any damage, but I don't own a barrel vise, and it was on there pretty tight after 60 years of use. NOTE- I checked the barrel vises in Brownell's, and I think I have enough chunks of steel laying around to build one, which will be a future project. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...n-336A-project __________________ Freedom's just a word. If I'm gonna die for a word, my word is jello...

November 19, 2013, 03:29 PM	#6
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	That's what I expected, but I had to ask. I have a 336 project on the table right now, that I've been researching some finish options for, and it was just bugging me that I kept running across all of these "gunsmiths" using BFWs as action wrenches. I just couldn't see any real gunsmith skipping their action wrench, in favor of a floppy-jawed adjustable wrench. semi_problomatic, I have removed a barrel with a pipe wrench, as well (from my namesake "Frankenstein" Mauser). But... I had absolutely no plans to save it. I use it as a breaker bar/pry bar in the shop, now. I wouldn't have used a pipe wrench on the barrel you pulled, but I won't criticize you for it, either. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

November 19, 2013, 05:52 AM	#3
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	I milled out my own wrench. Take a look how thin the side walls are on a 99. Why not go all the way and use a pipe wrench with grippers so it doesn't slip?

November 19, 2013, 07:44 PM	#7
semi_problomatic Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Location: Ft. Polk Posts: 883	sigh I gotta figure out the quotes thing. I didn't use a pipe wrench. The guy in the link I posted did. I just copied a paragraph and posted the link it came from. __________________ Freedom's just a word. If I'm gonna die for a word, my word is jello...

November 20, 2013, 01:17 AM	#8
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	I see. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

November 20, 2013, 09:44 PM	#9
guncrank Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2006 Location: Fern Creek ,KY and Metro Louisville at large Posts: 430	I use the Brownells action wrench and Use the blank block for flat sided actions like Marlins. __________________ Republic Arms and Armaments 07 1-502-231-1118 Machine Shop and Finishing Services to the trade and public

December 12, 2013, 04:43 PM	#10
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I KNOW I have used a big Crescent wrench on a Sav 99, but a search does not find a pic. But I do see pics of me using a wrench on a Colt revolver and a Uberti 1885. When doing something this Mickey Mouse, duck tape adds a nice touch. __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

December 16, 2013, 01:16 AM	#12
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	CLARK, I took notice you used a barrel vise.