The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Revolver Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old June 10, 2022, 03:32 PM   #1
vicvan901
Junior Member
 
Join Date: June 20, 2016
Posts: 2
Revolver newbie

I have been reading all kinds of revolvers posts and Grant Cunningham book Protect yourself with your snubnose revolver. Nothing like the glock pistols I use.

Half my original post got cut! Not really a question but was asking for any hints/tips for revolver shooting. I tried both LCR 38 and sw442 today at lgs for hand fitting and trigger feel. Some posts I had read mentioned the “tricky “ reset on LCR. Dryfire sure presented the happening. The reason I wanted to go to revolver was for pocket carry. The Ruger “tamer” grip showed me I couldn’t get it back out of the jean pocket. The 442 slips in/out perfect. Long and short of it is the 442 is what I chose. Now I begin the revolver learning curve. Thanks for reading my confession and hope to join in here on forum. Vic

Last edited by vicvan901; June 10, 2022 at 04:47 PM. Reason: Half the original didn’t post
vicvan901 is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 03:39 PM   #2
44 AMP
Staff
 
Join Date: March 11, 2006
Location: Upper US
Posts: 25,524
welcome to TFL

Big differences between revolvers and semi autos.

Is there a question here? How can we help?
__________________
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
44 AMP is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 04:34 PM   #3
buck460XVR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 28, 2006
Posts: 4,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by vicvan901 View Post
Nothing like the glock pistols I use.
No.......they are not. Both have their place tho, both are fun to shoot and both can be addictive.
buck460XVR is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 04:56 PM   #4
l.cutler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 18, 2005
Posts: 265
I've been carrying a 442 for years, great little gun.
l.cutler is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 05:58 PM   #5
AL45
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 12, 2012
Posts: 693
I carried a Ruger sp101 .357 magnum for a while. It was a little bulky so I switched to a Sig p238 .380. I prefer the Sp101, but it was more difficult to conceal wearing blue jeans and relatively tight fitting shirts. I carried it in the waist, but it was often getting uncovered while working.
AL45 is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 08:06 PM   #6
Alan0354
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 15, 2021
Posts: 496
When comes to mini conceal guns, the small 38 revolvers really have the notch over the semi. When you get down to 11 or 12oz for a 380 or 9mm, reliability suffers according to my research. More importantly, from my gun smithing experience(not professional).

I am into semi auto, but for very light and small ones, I am looking between Ruger LCR and S&W 340PD.

Now, I would not think about a K-frame, that's when semi auto shines. Can't beat Glock or the like.
Alan0354 is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 08:39 PM   #7
tlm225
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 21, 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 938
You've chosen one of the best .38 snubbys on the market. Great for pocket carry. I predict that after a couple of range trips you'll begin doubting it's suitability for self defense due to the challenge of shooting it accurately. Don't.

The J frame smith, which you have, is far more capable (accurate) than many give them credit for but it is more difficult than with a larger gun with a longer sight radius. Dry fire practice between range trips will help a lot.
__________________
All that is neccessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke
tlm225 is offline  
Old June 10, 2022, 09:20 PM   #8
jetinteriorguy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 28, 2013
Posts: 2,559
Just remember you don’t hold a revolver like a semi auto. Keep your fingers away from the cylinder gap or your going to get injured from hot gases escaping through the cylinder gap.
jetinteriorguy is offline  
Old June 11, 2022, 09:18 AM   #9
lee n. field
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 12, 2002
Location: The same state as Mordor.
Posts: 5,536
Quote:
Originally Posted by vicvan901 View Post
I have been reading all kinds of revolvers posts and Grant Cunningham book Protect yourself with your snubnose revolver. Nothing like the glock pistols I use.

Half my original post got cut! Not really a question but was asking for any hints/tips for revolver shooting. I tried both LCR 38 and sw442 today at lgs for hand fitting and trigger feel.
Hand fit changes with different grips ("stocks"). I take it as a given when I buy a revolver that I'll end up on a hunt for grips more to my liking.

There are more grip options for the S&W J-frame, than the LCR.

Quote:
Some posts I had read mentioned the “tricky “ reset on LCR. Dryfire sure presented the happening.
I've never had that happen with my LCR.

Dry firing doesn't tell you everything about how well a trigger will work in real use. And heed what Mr. Cunningham (and others) say about trigger return.

Quote:
The reason I wanted to go to revolver was for pocket carry.
Great for pocket carry.

Quote:
The Ruger “tamer” grip showed me I couldn’t get it back out of the jean pocket.
Maybe you need different pants, with large enough pockets.

Quote:
The 442 slips in/out perfect. Long and short of it is the 442 is what I chose. Now I begin the revolver learning curve. Thanks for reading my confession and hope to join in here on forum. Vic
The usual stock grips for the 442 are (for me, YMMV) "suboptimal". Painful to use. They superficially resemble the Uncle Mike's boot grip, but don't feel the same. My usual slightly into +P handloads were painful to shoot with those. (Hands vary greatly from person to person, and (with the face) are the most innervated part of the body. It should not be surprising that what one person likes another doesn't,)

Don't even think about changing out your springs to lighten the trigger. Shoot it as is. Trigger weight isn't everything.
__________________
"As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. "
lee n. field is offline  
Old June 12, 2022, 02:03 PM   #10
SSGN-Doc
Member
 
Join Date: September 7, 2021
Posts: 37
Snubby revolvers are a fantastic illustration of compromise and give and take.

On the one hand they are easy to conceal based on their size, and in alloy framed examples, light weight. The trade offs are increased felt recoil and a low tollerance for poor shooting technique.

The long and heavy trigger pull that makes them safe for carry, is harder for many to really master and requires quite a bit of practice. Their short sight radius and barrel length magnify mistakes made during the trigger stroke. The light weight makes long range sessions…uncomfortable, at least with most grips designed to maximize concealment.

Switching to more comfortable grips usually comes at a cost to concealment in bulk and more slightly in weight.

My 442 is probably the most “enjoyable” snubby for me to carry, but also probably the least comfortable to shoot (except maybe when my 640 is loaded with full strength .357 magnum loads).

My steel framed snubby revolvers are fairly pleasant to shoot in .38 Special, even with +P rounds, but being a bit heavier, I may still tend to reach for the lighter 442 first, when heading out the door.

I may do a ugly but effective mod on my 442 that I saw on another forum. Placing a piece of leather on the back strap of the frame and holding it in place with either athletic wrap or some bicycle inner tube. This way the dimensions stay largely the same, but the sting in the web of my hand may be reduced.

Snubbies are great, but when it comes down to it, my S&W 640-1 Pro is close in weight and size to my Beretta Px4 compact which gives me 15 rounds of 9mm vs. 5 rounds of .38/.357 mag.
SSGN-Doc is offline  
Old June 14, 2022, 12:36 PM   #11
chupps
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 6, 2005
Posts: 367
There is definitely a time an place for a pocket carry revolver. I carry my 442 in a mika pocket holster and love it.

https://mikaspocketholsters.com/

It stays put when you draw and easy to re-holster.
chupps is offline  
Old June 14, 2022, 05:09 PM   #12
Super Sneaky Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 9, 2011
Posts: 1,187
Get a Crimson Trace laser grip.

Focus on the dot and slowly squeeze the trigger until it breaks without moving the dot.

When you can do that, you've mastered the trigger for the most part.
Super Sneaky Steve is offline  
Old June 14, 2022, 06:43 PM   #13
101combatvet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 25, 2011
Posts: 586
I'm never without my 649 Smith.
__________________
Special Operations Combat Veteran
Gunsmith, BS, MFA - I can outsmart you!
Competitive Shooter - and out shoot you!
NRA Certified Firearms Instructor [8 Courses]
101combatvet is offline  
Old June 14, 2022, 08:34 PM   #14
Rob228
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2010
Location: Hampstead NC
Posts: 1,406
Quote:
Get a Crimson Trace laser grip.

Focus on the dot and slowly squeeze the trigger until it breaks without moving the dot.

When you can do that, you've mastered the trigger for the most part
Did this with an SP101 and shot it DAO and dry fired it the same. It significantly improved my pistol shooting with every other handgun I own.
Rob228 is offline  
Old June 16, 2022, 09:35 AM   #15
KenW.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 13, 2004
Posts: 163
Sometimes you have to dress around the gun,
KenW. is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.05229 seconds with 10 queries