Synthetic stocks for Lee Enfield

Wildebees · August 28, 2008, 12:39 PM

Anyone here who has experience of the different synthetic stocks available for the Lee Enfield?

I saw some displays on the Advanced Technologies website that appear pleasing, but one can not observe fine detail.

Any other manufacturers?

My 6.5/.303 project requires an attractive Monte Carlo type stock.

Harry Bonar · August 28, 2008, 06:13 PM

Sir;
Sinclair and Brownells sell No 4 SMLE stocks - they're about $70.00.
I'd also use some glass bedding.
Harry B.

T. O'Heir · August 28, 2008, 08:55 PM

You'll find the felt recoil is increased. Ramline makes or used to make one. Go here and click on the picture. Still not a great picture. They only have the camouflage model in stock. http://www.marstar.ca/ac-ATI/ATI-bolt-action.shtm
"...No 4 SMLE..." A No. 4 Rifle is not an SMLE. Only the No. 1 Mk whatever is an SMLE.

Wildebees · August 29, 2008, 02:13 AM

Ah.. thank you gentlemen, your kind advice is much appreciated!

CowTowner · August 29, 2008, 10:03 AM

I have a No 4 Mk 1 with an ATI synthetic stock on it.
You will feel the recoil much more. I recommend having a pad fitted to the butt.
It does make the old war horse a little lighter to carry around out in the field.

4thPointofContact · August 29, 2008, 11:40 AM

I put an ATI sporter stock on my 7.62x51 Ishapore 2A1 (MkIII with better steel, essentially) . I also added an XS Sight systems scout scope mount over the barrel to compensate for eyes that have not aged well.

Since it was a synthetic stock and had no recoil pad to speak of, I was dreading the recoil I expected. I was pleasantly surprised...

From a bench position, (usually the worst way to sit regarding recoil) it felt equal or less than my 930 SPX with the 1-inch recoil pad firing reduced buckshot and a LOT less than shooting 3 inch birdshot out of the SPX. I was able to empty 10-round magazines as fast as I could throw the bold with a big smile on my face.

One word though... The checkered panels on the ATI stock are not molded in (??). They are separate pieces that attach to the forearm. If you are going to add a scout scope, you should have the forearm bedded since it's going to be "Dremelled" out anyway and the panels will then be a bit loose.

Right now, my little 'Ishie pseudo-scout' is one of my favorite trunk guns.

Wildebees · August 29, 2008, 12:57 PM

I enjoyed reading all your posts, guys, thank you. As I am planning to use the synthetic stocks on the 6.5/.303 which will duplicate the 6.5 Swedish in performance, so recoil is no problem. A butt pad does make for better LOP though.

I have just recently redone my old No 4 Mk.1 from which I had earlier took the top wood off and shortened the fore end to the metal band position. I used to use it at farmers' get-together fun shoots with peep sights over distances from 200m to 600m.

I wanted an open sight bush rifle for Kudu / Impala / Warthog, where shooting is rarely beyond sixty meters, and where one equally rarely has more than 4 seconds available between sighting and shooting. So I shortened the barrel to just behind the step (bayonet lugs), fitted front and rear iron sights and reworked the rear stock to resemble a conservative Monte Carlo, and also fitted a butt pad. It looks pleasing, is considerably lighter and the recoil is similar to my son's Musgrave Light in 30-06 with 200gr bullets. It is pleasantly manly, not punishing. But then, I am used to .375 H&H.

Having sighted it from a rest I now practice off hand with the open sights, as it is the way we do 90% of our hunting. With glasses I trust myself up to 100m on impala.

Yes, certainly sitting at a bench allows unnatural positioning of the butt against the shoulder, so most of our shooting at the range is off hand. One needs to be able to hit a saucer size target at 100 meters, so that is what my son and I practise weekends when we are not hunting.

I shall post some pictures of the "new" old bush gun shortly. I in fact like it a great deal. I've always enjoyed the .303 as much as the 30-06, .308 and the .375 H&H.

Now some further research for the best synthetic, hopefully a pleasing camo.

August 28, 2008, 12:39 PM	#1
Wildebees Member Join Date: August 9, 2008 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 89	Synthetic stocks for Lee Enfield Anyone here who has experience of the different synthetic stocks available for the Lee Enfield? I saw some displays on the Advanced Technologies website that appear pleasing, but one can not observe fine detail. Any other manufacturers? My 6.5/.303 project requires an attractive Monte Carlo type stock. __________________ "Do you not know that all human ills and mean-spiritedness and cowardice arise not from death but from fear of death? Against this therefor fortify yourself....then you shall find that by this alone are men made free."

August 28, 2008, 06:13 PM	#2
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	stocks Sir; Sinclair and Brownells sell No 4 SMLE stocks - they're about $70.00. I'd also use some glass bedding. Harry B.

August 28, 2008, 08:55 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	You'll find the felt recoil is increased. Ramline makes or used to make one. Go here and click on the picture. Still not a great picture. They only have the camouflage model in stock. http://www.marstar.ca/ac-ATI/ATI-bolt-action.shtm "...No 4 SMLE..." A No. 4 Rifle is not an SMLE. Only the No. 1 Mk whatever is an SMLE. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

August 29, 2008, 02:13 AM	#4
Wildebees Member Join Date: August 9, 2008 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 89	Ah.. thank you gentlemen, your kind advice is much appreciated! __________________ "Do you not know that all human ills and mean-spiritedness and cowardice arise not from death but from fear of death? Against this therefor fortify yourself....then you shall find that by this alone are men made free."

August 29, 2008, 10:03 AM	#5
CowTowner Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Cowtown of course! Posts: 1,747	I have a No 4 Mk 1 with an ATI synthetic stock on it. You will feel the recoil much more. I recommend having a pad fitted to the butt. It does make the old war horse a little lighter to carry around out in the field. __________________ NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, Home Firearms Safety, Pistol and Rifle Instructor *“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life......”* President John F. Kennedy

August 29, 2008, 11:40 AM	#6
4thPointofContact Junior member Join Date: September 22, 2007 Posts: 197	I put an ATI sporter stock on my 7.62x51 Ishapore 2A1 (MkIII with better steel, essentially) . I also added an XS Sight systems scout scope mount over the barrel to compensate for eyes that have not aged well. Since it was a synthetic stock and had no recoil pad to speak of, I was dreading the recoil I expected. I was pleasantly surprised... From a bench position, (usually the worst way to sit regarding recoil) it felt equal or less than my 930 SPX with the 1-inch recoil pad firing reduced buckshot and a LOT less than shooting 3 inch birdshot out of the SPX. I was able to empty 10-round magazines as fast as I could throw the bold with a big smile on my face. One word though... The checkered panels on the ATI stock are not molded in (??). They are separate pieces that attach to the forearm. If you are going to add a scout scope, you should have the forearm bedded since it's going to be "Dremelled" out anyway and the panels will then be a bit loose. Right now, my little 'Ishie pseudo-scout' is one of my favorite trunk guns.

August 29, 2008, 12:57 PM	#7
Wildebees Member Join Date: August 9, 2008 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 89	Of Synth's and recoil and looks I enjoyed reading all your posts, guys, thank you. As I am planning to use the synthetic stocks on the 6.5/.303 which will duplicate the 6.5 Swedish in performance, so recoil is no problem. A butt pad does make for better LOP though. I have just recently redone my old No 4 Mk.1 from which I had earlier took the top wood off and shortened the fore end to the metal band position. I used to use it at farmers' get-together fun shoots with peep sights over distances from 200m to 600m. I wanted an open sight bush rifle for Kudu / Impala / Warthog, where shooting is rarely beyond sixty meters, and where one equally rarely has more than 4 seconds available between sighting and shooting. So I shortened the barrel to just behind the step (bayonet lugs), fitted front and rear iron sights and reworked the rear stock to resemble a conservative Monte Carlo, and also fitted a butt pad. It looks pleasing, is considerably lighter and the recoil is similar to my son's Musgrave Light in 30-06 with 200gr bullets. It is pleasantly manly, not punishing. But then, I am used to .375 H&H. Having sighted it from a rest I now practice off hand with the open sights, as it is the way we do 90% of our hunting. With glasses I trust myself up to 100m on impala. Yes, certainly sitting at a bench allows unnatural positioning of the butt against the shoulder, so most of our shooting at the range is off hand. One needs to be able to hit a saucer size target at 100 meters, so that is what my son and I practise weekends when we are not hunting. I shall post some pictures of the "new" old bush gun shortly. I in fact like it a great deal. I've always enjoyed the .303 as much as the 30-06, .308 and the .375 H&H. Now some further research for the best synthetic, hopefully a pleasing camo. __________________ "Do you not know that all human ills and mean-spiritedness and cowardice arise not from death but from fear of death? Against this therefor fortify yourself....then you shall find that by this alone are men made free."