card gun?

labgrade · January 12, 2002, 01:53 PM

Picked up a (mumble) gun rag several years bak - looking for some infomation regarding turkey hunting & ran across an article about "card guns."

Seemingly, there's a sport that's main ideal is to get a shotgun to pattern extremely tight & take out the center of a lpaying card at (mumbel) range/s.

As I recall (cannot find the magazine for the life of me), they were using ~#8 shot & getting patterns of around 1-1/2" at 25 yards or so.

Anyone with anything on this?

C.R.Sam · January 12, 2002, 02:37 PM

Early Herter's shot cups would give patterns like that unless you slit em before loadin em.

Sam

Dave McC · January 13, 2002, 08:56 AM

It used to be a GOB could take his duck gun to a turkey shoot and have a chance at winning. Some folks used Model 12s or the Winchester(Not Ithaca) model 37 single. In days long gone by, a few hams and so on followed me home once in a great while. Not so now....

The same sort of thinking that turned IPSC into a techno game went to work. Now, bbls are fabricated from Steel tubing, scopes are mandatory, and the whole thing is kinda like Benchrest, with lots of humorless, win at all costs folks out to win. And like IPSC, the guns are darn near useless for anything else.

Be that as it may, some of the best research ever done on patterns, chokes, and interior dimensions are a result of this fascination, kinda like the way cars have been improved by NASCAR and Indy racing.

labgrade · January 13, 2002, 12:30 PM

Kinda what I figured - seems VERY specialized, but with the attendant research that goes into making one-a these shooters into what they are.

BTW, this article was a spin-off from those on turkey hunting, titled something along the lines of, "you think you have a tight pattern!"

Dave McC · January 13, 2002, 12:48 PM

Last card shoot I went to was a while back. One shooter displayed a 30 yard card with just the corners left. He admitted it was a fluke, but the other cards showed a VERY tight core also.

BTW, typically the load used is a Federal specialized one, 7/8 oz of 8s in a paper case. Velocity is way down there too, which aids keeping the shot together.

January 12, 2002, 01:53 PM	#1
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	card gun? Picked up a (mumble) gun rag several years bak - looking for some infomation regarding turkey hunting & ran across an article about "card guns." Seemingly, there's a sport that's main ideal is to get a shotgun to pattern extremely tight & take out the center of a lpaying card at (mumbel) range/s. As I recall (cannot find the magazine for the life of me), they were using ~#8 shot & getting patterns of around 1-1/2" at 25 yards or so. Anyone with anything on this?

January 12, 2002, 02:37 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Early Herter's shot cups would give patterns like that unless you slit em before loadin em. Sam

January 13, 2002, 08:56 AM	#3
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	It used to be a GOB could take his duck gun to a turkey shoot and have a chance at winning. Some folks used Model 12s or the Winchester(Not Ithaca) model 37 single. In days long gone by, a few hams and so on followed me home once in a great while. Not so now.... The same sort of thinking that turned IPSC into a techno game went to work. Now, bbls are fabricated from Steel tubing, scopes are mandatory, and the whole thing is kinda like Benchrest, with lots of humorless, win at all costs folks out to win. And like IPSC, the guns are darn near useless for anything else. Be that as it may, some of the best research ever done on patterns, chokes, and interior dimensions are a result of this fascination, kinda like the way cars have been improved by NASCAR and Indy racing.

January 13, 2002, 12:30 PM	#4
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	Kinda what I figured - seems VERY specialized, but with the attendant research that goes into making one-a these shooters into what they are. BTW, this article was a spin-off from those on turkey hunting, titled something along the lines of, "you think you have a tight pattern!"

January 13, 2002, 12:48 PM	#5
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Last card shoot I went to was a while back. One shooter displayed a 30 yard card with just the corners left. He admitted it was a fluke, but the other cards showed a VERY tight core also. BTW, typically the load used is a Federal specialized one, 7/8 oz of 8s in a paper case. Velocity is way down there too, which aids keeping the shot together.