High Pressure Grease

mete · July 21, 2018, 01:42 PM

High pressure grease like those developed for early stainless steel guns for anti-galling such as RIG+. What's available today ? [ EP Grease ]

RC20 · July 21, 2018, 02:22 PM

That would be EP grease.

Not needed for a gun.

I use synthetic as I got a combo order of that and oil.

std7mag · July 21, 2018, 03:38 PM

I use one from i believe, Montana gun products on my bolts.
Marketed specifically for guns.

RC20 · July 22, 2018, 01:11 PM

There is not standard for gun grease. It can be anything someone puts in a tube or small tub including bacon grease. Guaranteed its repackaged grease from something.

Equipment greases do have standards. If you want an EP grease, then get something like Chevron, forget which type but your local petroleum company will have it, maybe local auto store.

tangolima · July 22, 2018, 03:39 PM

I have gone through my own journey of understanding on gun grease. When I started out, I bought a tube of tetra grease with Teflon for guns. It worked fine for years.

Then I found, by accident, that the moly grease I used for auto repair actually worked better. I gave away the half tube of tetra grease to a friend, who was starting out as well.

Some years later I needed special grease for repairing some food processing appliance. I bought a tube of superlube synthetic grease. It worked as well as the moly , if not better. It is my first choice; it is clear, non-toxic and has very wide temperature range.

There are actually many choices without the "gun" label. They may work even better and are, almost for sure, cheaper.

-TL

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RC20 · July 22, 2018, 05:11 PM

Yep, as noted, oils and greases for machinery have specs. Very high quality control maintained (by the OEM like Chevron as well as the specialty guys you find in your local Bearing Store.)

Even some regional grease suppliers are iffy. One sold us grease for one use, they moved to use it everyone and when I tracked it down found it was not synthetic like the sale people claimed (and charged for)

Synthetic gun grease is going to be decent and likely re-packged from a good supplier, but costs a fair amount.

Nothing in a gun sees the type of action a gear does. Lugs simply have a single impulse, they are not bathed in grease and it just wipes off. In a bearing its replaced but in a gun it just squirts off to one side.

Open chain drives (Motorcycle) forget it. O ring chains helped a lot but.....

You can't keep a bicycle chain worth a hoot past 1000 miles. O ring types don't even help there (triple the cost and you may double the life, hmmm)

jfruser · August 7, 2018, 02:54 PM

I am happy with the red Mobil1 synthetic grease, sold in the tubs. One tub will last you a lifetime.

mete · August 7, 2018, 05:51 PM

If you have something like Browning O/U the forces on the hinge pin are high and there are also wiping action forces so an EP grade is suitable ! A small amount on the hinge pin and a standard grease for other parts. . A common example of wiping forces are found on automobile hypoid gears ! !

RC20 · August 9, 2018, 05:16 PM

Won't hurt but not needed.

SGW Gunsmith · August 25, 2018, 12:05 PM

Over the years I've used a "copper dust" impregnated anti-seize grease for use on firearms where like-metal parts rub against one another. Break-open shotguns will be seen with galling on the front of the receiver where the forearm iron rubs.
Many Ruger Mark pistol owners find it difficult to remove the upper assembly off the grip frame due to the metal to metal contact involved. This copper dust anti-seize lube will prevent all of that, and the copper dust itself is a good lubricating agent:

RC20 · August 26, 2018, 04:27 PM

Interesting. We tried it on fan shafts and it welded the bearings to them.

Dufus · August 26, 2018, 06:30 PM

It isn't a lubricating grease. It's intended use is for bolt threads.

https://www.newmantools.com/felpro/c5a.htm

gwpercle · August 29, 2018, 04:01 PM

Lucas Red-N-Tacky , good high pressure lithium grease , works well on rails.

Anti seize compounds are more to keep threads from...well from seizing , the next time you want to unscrew the bolt it will unscrew . not so much for the lubrication of moving parts .
Gary

FITASC · August 29, 2018, 04:45 PM

This stuff works well: I have used it on guns, my pool filter gaskets for lubrication prior to reinstallation, etc. It is also NSF rated for food areas:

Also works great on the collet sizer of my reloading (MEC) equipment

F. Guffey · August 30, 2018, 11:25 AM

I am not the fan of packing my guns with grease. I am also the fan of having nothing between the case and chamber, nothing but air as in atmosphere. When my case expands nothing gets out of the way like air.

I know, grease is thin but it is slower at getting out of the way than air and then there is the worst part; dirt, grit and grime, dirt, grit and grime can be abrasive, grease is like a magnet when it comes to attracting dirt, grit and grime.

F. Guffey

July 21, 2018, 01:42 PM	#1
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	High Pressure Grease High pressure grease like those developed for early stainless steel guns for anti-galling such as RIG+. What's available today ? [ EP Grease ] __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver ! Last edited by mete; July 21, 2018 at 02:21 PM.

July 21, 2018, 02:22 PM	#2
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	That would be EP grease. Not needed for a gun. I use synthetic as I got a combo order of that and oil. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

July 21, 2018, 03:38 PM	#3
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	I use one from i believe, Montana gun products on my bolts. Marketed specifically for guns. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

July 22, 2018, 01:11 PM	#4
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	There is not standard for gun grease. It can be anything someone puts in a tube or small tub including bacon grease. Guaranteed its repackaged grease from something. Equipment greases do have standards. If you want an EP grease, then get something like Chevron, forget which type but your local petroleum company will have it, maybe local auto store. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

July 22, 2018, 05:11 PM	#6
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Yep, as noted, oils and greases for machinery have specs. Very high quality control maintained (by the OEM like Chevron as well as the specialty guys you find in your local Bearing Store.) Even some regional grease suppliers are iffy. One sold us grease for one use, they moved to use it everyone and when I tracked it down found it was not synthetic like the sale people claimed (and charged for) Synthetic gun grease is going to be decent and likely re-packged from a good supplier, but costs a fair amount. Nothing in a gun sees the type of action a gear does. Lugs simply have a single impulse, they are not bathed in grease and it just wipes off. In a bearing its replaced but in a gun it just squirts off to one side. Open chain drives (Motorcycle) forget it. O ring chains helped a lot but..... You can't keep a bicycle chain worth a hoot past 1000 miles. O ring types don't even help there (triple the cost and you may double the life, hmmm) __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

July 22, 2018, 03:39 PM	#5
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,824	I have gone through my own journey of understanding on gun grease. When I started out, I bought a tube of tetra grease with Teflon for guns. It worked fine for years. Then I found, by accident, that the moly grease I used for auto repair actually worked better. I gave away the half tube of tetra grease to a friend, who was starting out as well. Some years later I needed special grease for repairing some food processing appliance. I bought a tube of superlube synthetic grease. It worked as well as the moly , if not better. It is my first choice; it is clear, non-toxic and has very wide temperature range. There are actually many choices without the "gun" label. They may work even better and are, almost for sure, cheaper. -TL Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

August 7, 2018, 02:54 PM	#7
jfruser Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 350	I am happy with the red Mobil1 synthetic grease, sold in the tubs. One tub will last you a lifetime. __________________ Regards, jfruser "Books and bullets have their own destinies."----Bob Ross

August 7, 2018, 05:51 PM	#8
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	If you have something like Browning O/U the forces on the hinge pin are high and there are also wiping action forces so an EP grade is suitable ! A small amount on the hinge pin and a standard grease for other parts. . A common example of wiping forces are found on automobile hypoid gears ! ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

August 9, 2018, 05:16 PM	#9
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Won't hurt but not needed. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

August 25, 2018, 12:05 PM	#10
SGW Gunsmith Junior member Join Date: December 31, 2014 Location: Northwest Wisconsin Posts: 285	Over the years I've used a "copper dust" impregnated anti-seize grease for use on firearms where like-metal parts rub against one another. Break-open shotguns will be seen with galling on the front of the receiver where the forearm iron rubs. Many Ruger Mark pistol owners find it difficult to remove the upper assembly off the grip frame due to the metal to metal contact involved. This copper dust anti-seize lube will prevent all of that, and the copper dust itself is a good lubricating agent:

August 26, 2018, 04:27 PM	#11
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Interesting. We tried it on fan shafts and it welded the bearings to them. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

August 26, 2018, 06:30 PM	#12
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	It isn't a lubricating grease. It's intended use is for bolt threads. https://www.newmantools.com/felpro/c5a.htm

August 29, 2018, 04:01 PM	#13
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,752	Lucas Red-N-Tacky , good high pressure lithium grease , works well on rails. Anti seize compounds are more to keep threads from...well from seizing , the next time you want to unscrew the bolt it will unscrew . not so much for the lubrication of moving parts . Gary Last edited by gwpercle; August 29, 2018 at 04:07 PM.

August 29, 2018, 04:45 PM	#14
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,446	This stuff works well: I have used it on guns, my pool filter gaskets for lubrication prior to reinstallation, etc. It is also NSF rated for food areas: Also works great on the collet sizer of my reloading (MEC) equipment __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

August 30, 2018, 11:25 AM	#15
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	I am not the fan of packing my guns with grease. I am also the fan of having nothing between the case and chamber, nothing but air as in atmosphere. When my case expands nothing gets out of the way like air. I know, grease is thin but it is slower at getting out of the way than air and then there is the worst part; dirt, grit and grime, dirt, grit and grime can be abrasive, grease is like a magnet when it comes to attracting dirt, grit and grime. F. Guffey