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January 25, 2009, 12:34 AM | #176 |
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Actually Tennessee, if you were to search the L&P archives in the Heller mega thread, I argued quite well exactly how the NICS check will meet strict scrutiny.
Doesn't mean I have to like it. Just that it is and will be legal. |
January 25, 2009, 12:54 AM | #177 | |
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January 25, 2009, 01:08 AM | #178 |
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Oh Boy... Give some people a little knowledge... Glad to see you understood that "How to quote" thread.
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January 25, 2009, 01:20 AM | #179 | |
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January 25, 2009, 01:24 AM | #180 |
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Leave private sales alone. Just enforce the laws we have already thank you.
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January 25, 2009, 01:29 AM | #181 | |
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January 25, 2009, 01:29 AM | #182 |
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How about this idea? Drivers license's and state ID's have a code on them to show that the person lost his gun rights. That way we dont all have to be penalized for the foolishness of a few. But can simple logic be applied?
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January 25, 2009, 01:36 AM | #183 |
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You would still have to call in and verify the validity of the licenses. You would still be doing pretty much the same thing that is done now.
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January 25, 2009, 02:53 AM | #184 |
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"Loophole", HA!
Closing the "loophole" would tell me that my friends and I could not trade, swap, or pass on guns to each other without the government sticking its overlarge nose into our private business. NO!
By the way, I had to wikipedia the "Gun Show Loophole" to see exactly what some anti-gunners THOUGHT it meant. It was still full of holes, like so many gun control arguments are. |
January 25, 2009, 02:59 AM | #185 |
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Unless your a convicted felon or the gun in question is a machine gun the government has no right to know a thing about it.
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January 25, 2009, 08:29 AM | #186 |
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Several off topic posts and responses to those posts, deleted.
Please folks, if a person posts something off topic, report the post, but do not respond to it. That's feeding the troll! |
January 25, 2009, 09:39 AM | #187 | |
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A few folks including myself would argue they have no right to know about those things either. |
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January 25, 2009, 12:09 PM | #189 | |
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And there lies the crux of the problem, what right does the majority or the court have to infringe upon a person's god given rights? Both laws came about as sell out compromises. I will admit I'm torn on felons, but the older I get the more I don't have a problem with it. |
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January 25, 2009, 12:19 PM | #190 | ||
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Every single right in the BOR is limited or regulated in some way. My view is that are no absolute rights without restriction except in an Anarchy and only then if you have the power to enforce it. Anyway, a nut or a crook doesn't have a right IMO to own a firearm. Quote:
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What about lunatics? Do you think that gun laws prevent lunatics or crooks from owning guns? Pick any city you like that has stringent gun laws. I'll bet you that they have a higher percentage of gun and violent crime than their surrounding areas. My point being I'm for putting everyone on equal ground instead of hamstringing or making a criminal out of an otherwise law abiding person. |
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But to your question, yes I think gun laws do keep guns out of the hands of criminals and nuts but not all of them all the time. However, that is true with any law, but that is not why we make things illegal. Quote:
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Chicago, DC, NYC, LA all have draconian gun laws and they have done nothing to curb violence or keep guns from criminals who want them. Quote:
FWIW: I haven't always felt this way, but my beliefs are becoming this way rapidly. I've simply grown tired of govt. intervention where it has no place. |
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Be careful about relying upon "the public safety" as a wedge to curtail rights. Such a thing can and will come back to haunt you. Just saying....
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How many people, for public safety, agree with the government calling US citizens "terrorists" and holding them without charge? Quote:
Of course, I consider the 1934 NFA, 1968 GCA and everything since to be unconstitutional. Last edited by Hkmp5sd; January 25, 2009 at 02:12 PM. |
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There are some in this country that consider anyone not agreeing with an "assault weapon" ban to be a closed minded gun fanatic that cannot understand the need to ban these guns for public safety. |
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NICS is a tool to help enforce that ban. It is not perfect and no system would be but many (me included) feel it is better than nothing. I don't think we should expand the discussion to crime because I believe that violent crime is caused by a variety of reasons and certainly not just easy access to guns. Quote:
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