CZ 75B vs. Sig P226 - Page 2

Sparks1957 · July 4, 2012, 03:29 PM

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with the trigger there is no contest

No doubt, the Sig trigger is superior. However, the CZ trigger isn't so horrible that it cancels all the other plusses out. I've experienced much worse.

BrthrB · July 4, 2012, 07:42 PM

Both are really nice...I prefer the CZ 75b!

chris in va · July 5, 2012, 12:27 PM

I've tried a 229, owned a 220.

I much prefer my 75bd and 97b. If I had to do it over again I'd get a polished stainless 75b.

NJgunowner · July 5, 2012, 12:47 PM

If they were the same price, I'd buy the sig in a heartbeat. However, considering the Sig is usually much more expensive "for the money" I'd have to go with the CZ-75b. I don't feel the sig is worth that much more than the CZ, which is an excellent gun.

Battle Born · July 5, 2012, 01:18 PM

If at all possible go shoot both of them.
You will probably shoot one or the other better and there is your answer.

Mark

gc70 · July 5, 2012, 01:56 PM

They are both great guns, but they differ substantially in ergonomics and mode of operation. Try both and get the one that works best for you.

rgrundy · July 5, 2012, 02:06 PM

If I wanted to compete in USPSA or a like venue I'd get an SP-101 and a trigger job by Angus Hobdel. If I wanted a pistol that will stand some abuse and function nearly as well in harsh environments as a Glock I'd get the SIG P226.

schmeky · July 5, 2012, 08:28 PM

I agree with comments on the Sig OTB SA trigger being much better than a comparable CZ. No contest.

Here's some interesting math - average Sig NIB 226 price is around $900.00. CZ-75 is running around $500.00. I've owned several of both, and I don't personally see where the Sig is $400.00 better. For an additional $125.00 - $200.00 the CZ can have a killer SA and a DA trigger pull, if you can do the work yourself.

This would bring the CZ to $700.00. $200.00 buys a lot of ammo or other accessories, or something to keep the wife happy. And I love Sigs.

excelerater · July 6, 2012, 06:21 AM

I own both,id say they are dead even
my 226 is a 40 and my CZ75B is a 40.....IMO you cant go wring with either
however the SIG is proud of their prices and are charging too much for what you get ..CZ is better looking for me and all steel while my Sig226 is Alum framed w a rail so it because my bug out SHTF gun....
Both have been 100% flawless and reliable both are equally accurate for me
Sig came with night shights CZ did not,SIG trigger broke on me after 2000 rounds and sig repaired me to SRT no extra charge via warrenty ..I have not tried CZ service yet......time will tell

IMO either will get the job done,choose your weapon!

Mark54g · July 6, 2012, 09:01 AM

I have used CZ customer service. Within 15 minutes, I was on the phone with a gun smith in each time. The first time, I had a problem with extracting aluminum cased shells, and they sent me a new extractor spring, firing pin spring, etc with no questions asked. I made an off hand comment that the paint on the front sight was wearing, and when I opened the baggy, that was in there too.

Fast forward a few years later, I was replacing the recoil spring again, and the mag springs, so I called up to see if they could give me a bit of assistance on when they figured I ought to replace the springs in both, and spent about 10 minutes on the phone with the smith discussing poundage, and the benefits of this vs that type of round with a heavy or light spring, or whether I should replace the mainspring or not.

Overall, I like them a lot.

SG29736 · July 6, 2012, 03:59 PM

We have the Sig 226 at work. They are defininetly solid guns. When I'm comparing similar guns I don't really care which is better, trigger wise, out of the box. I'm going to end up getting some work done anyway. The Sig just feels like a brick in my hands compared to the CZ75B. Plus, there can be a pretty sizeable cost difference between the two. Mark

THORN74 · July 6, 2012, 06:55 PM

P226 was the first gun I ever purchased.... got mine in 40s&w, later I added a 9mm conversion.... shoot great either way. It will always hold a special place for me, first love kinda thing ...

IMHO U CANT GO WRONG WITH P226.

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TunnelRat · July 6, 2012, 09:34 PM

You can get a new CZ with a trigger job from the custom shop for ~$100-$200 less than a SIG. I love SIGs, they taught me the DA/SA system and I would have no trouble trusting them with my life. That said the price difference and ergonomics make me prefer CZ.

Kazaam · July 6, 2012, 11:11 PM

Thanks for all the replies everyone! Definitely extremely helpful. Question to the people who talk about weight...everyone always says the P226 is lighter, but if I compare the stainless CZ 75B to the P226 Elite, the CZ 75B is lighter. If i compare it to the regular P226, the CZ is only an ounce or so heavier. Is there something I'm missing here?

IMightBeWrong · July 6, 2012, 11:17 PM

I picked the SIG. I've had experience with owning a P228 M11 overrun with an SRT installed and a CZ P-01 both in the past. Both are fantastic, but my 228 gave me a smoother shooting experience overall and I preferred the location of the controls and the takedown lever rather than removal of the slide stop. I also like the overall quality of the design. Not that it matters much, but the braided springs sure are cool!

myshoulderissore · July 6, 2012, 11:30 PM

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Thanks for all the replies everyone! Definitely extremely helpful. Question to the people who talk about weight...everyone always says the P226 is lighter, but if I compare the stainless CZ 75B to the P226 Elite, the CZ 75B is lighter. If i compare it to the regular P226, the CZ is only an ounce or so heavier. Is there something I'm missing here?

I assume you are talking about Stainless P226 Elite vs Satin Nickel CZ75B...

Empty CZ75B - 34.72oz
P226 w/mag (unspecified loaded or not. I assume loaded) - 42.2oz
15 round of 9mm will weigh about 9oz, so unloaded P226 Stainless Elite would likely be 33.2oz.

Really, it's very close there. Granted, there are probably lighter versions of the P226 (Scorpion - 34oz w/mag) but meh...

I am thinking the people pointing out the price difference severity are on to something, and triggers improve with use, even without trigger jobs. Except my 870... It won't budge! Either way, though, you'll get a great pistol, and have gobs of fun.

excelerater · July 7, 2012, 11:24 AM

Talking about trigger jobs my
CZ75s 9MM I had done at the custom shop..its nice,very much like early 3rd gen S&Ws but lighter......IMO they should all come this way std!

shadowen · July 8, 2012, 12:48 PM

Have shot the Sig P226 - nice gun.

Own two CZ 75Bs, both in black polycoat - my primary carry (with a Sig P230 as a backup). Hands down the better buy in my opinion - just give the trigger a bit of time to break in and you've got what I would consider a superior gun.

Kazaam · August 30, 2012, 07:37 PM

Gonna make a decision within the next week! Still between these two.

CZ 75B stainless or P226 Elite Stainless

smokehouse4444 · August 30, 2012, 08:32 PM

"DA/SA is just an inferior technique".

Couldn't disagree more.

I shoot a friend of mine's CZ quite often. It just doesn't do a thing for me for whatever reason. The SIG has the right feel for me. Not even close as far as I'm concerned.

level10 · August 30, 2012, 09:20 PM

Sig 226 is a great pistol i prefer the sig but there is nothing wrong with cz try them at your local range

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TunnelRat · August 30, 2012, 09:40 PM

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DA/SA is just an inferior technique.

Wow. If that's true, and it must be because it's on the internet, I am baffled at how SIG Sauer has stayed in business all these years.

Kazaam · September 18, 2012, 12:36 AM

STILL havent decided!

iblong · September 18, 2012, 06:54 AM

I have the 75B and the P-O1 both with trigger jobs Love them both.
Both had medeocer triggers out of the box,gritty and stagey,but there both verry smooth now.

sigarms228 · September 18, 2012, 08:08 AM

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STILL havent decided!

LOL.

Have you tried both together at the same range session?? That would seem like a great way to figure out what works best for you.

Myself it is the SIG P226 having tried both but you may be different.

You might want to decide pretty soon just in case high capacity pistols become very scarce again after the election.

View Poll Results: CZ 75B vs. Sig P226
CZ 75B	67	56.78%
Sig P226	51	43.22%
Voters: 118. You may not vote on this poll

July 4, 2012, 07:42 PM	#27
BrthrB Member Join Date: February 14, 2006 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 54	Both are really nice...I prefer the CZ 75b! __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing!

July 5, 2012, 01:18 PM	#30
Battle Born Member Join Date: June 11, 2011 Posts: 24	If at all possible go shoot both of them. You will probably shoot one or the other better and there is your answer. Mark __________________ US Firearms Academy Store-775-826-2626 www.Renoguns.com [email protected]

July 6, 2012, 09:01 AM	#35
Mark54g Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 1,265	I have used CZ customer service. Within 15 minutes, I was on the phone with a gun smith in each time. The first time, I had a problem with extracting aluminum cased shells, and they sent me a new extractor spring, firing pin spring, etc with no questions asked. I made an off hand comment that the paint on the front sight was wearing, and when I opened the baggy, that was in there too. Fast forward a few years later, I was replacing the recoil spring again, and the mag springs, so I called up to see if they could give me a bit of assistance on when they figured I ought to replace the springs in both, and spent about 10 minutes on the phone with the smith discussing poundage, and the benefits of this vs that type of round with a heavy or light spring, or whether I should replace the mainspring or not. Overall, I like them a lot. __________________ CZ 75B Stainless Beretta PX4 F Series 9mm & U22 Neos 6" black S&W Shield 9mm

July 6, 2012, 09:34 PM	#38
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	You can get a new CZ with a trigger job from the custom shop for ~$100-$200 less than a SIG. I love SIGs, they taught me the DA/SA system and I would have no trouble trusting them with my life. That said the price difference and ergonomics make me prefer CZ. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

July 5, 2012, 12:27 PM	#28
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I've tried a 229, owned a 220. I much prefer my 75bd and 97b. If I had to do it over again I'd get a polished stainless 75b.

July 5, 2012, 12:47 PM	#29
NJgunowner Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,254	If they were the same price, I'd buy the sig in a heartbeat. However, considering the Sig is usually much more expensive "for the money" I'd have to go with the CZ-75b. I don't feel the sig is worth that much more than the CZ, which is an excellent gun.

July 5, 2012, 01:56 PM	#31
gc70 Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,903	They are both great guns, but they differ substantially in ergonomics and mode of operation. Try both and get the one that works best for you.

July 5, 2012, 02:06 PM	#32
rgrundy Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2012 Location: Phoenix Posts: 188	If I wanted to compete in USPSA or a like venue I'd get an SP-101 and a trigger job by Angus Hobdel. If I wanted a pistol that will stand some abuse and function nearly as well in harsh environments as a Glock I'd get the SIG P226.

July 5, 2012, 08:28 PM	#33
schmeky Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2006 Posts: 810	I agree with comments on the Sig OTB SA trigger being much better than a comparable CZ. No contest. Here's some interesting math - average Sig NIB 226 price is around $900.00. CZ-75 is running around $500.00. I've owned several of both, and I don't personally see where the Sig is $400.00 better. For an additional $125.00 - $200.00 the CZ can have a killer SA and a DA trigger pull, if you can do the work yourself. This would bring the CZ to $700.00. $200.00 buys a lot of ammo or other accessories, or something to keep the wife happy. And I love Sigs.

July 6, 2012, 06:21 AM	#34
excelerater Junior member Join Date: June 27, 2011 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 694	I own both,id say they are dead even my 226 is a 40 and my CZ75B is a 40.....IMO you cant go wring with either however the SIG is proud of their prices and are charging too much for what you get ..CZ is better looking for me and all steel while my Sig226 is Alum framed w a rail so it because my bug out SHTF gun.... Both have been 100% flawless and reliable both are equally accurate for me Sig came with night shights CZ did not,SIG trigger broke on me after 2000 rounds and sig repaired me to SRT no extra charge via warrenty ..I have not tried CZ service yet......time will tell IMO either will get the job done,choose your weapon!

July 6, 2012, 03:59 PM	#36
SG29736 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Location: Northern Ca. Posts: 107	We have the Sig 226 at work. They are defininetly solid guns. When I'm comparing similar guns I don't really care which is better, trigger wise, out of the box. I'm going to end up getting some work done anyway. The Sig just feels like a brick in my hands compared to the CZ75B. Plus, there can be a pretty sizeable cost difference between the two. Mark

July 6, 2012, 06:55 PM	#37
THORN74 Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2010 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Posts: 543	P226 was the first gun I ever purchased.... got mine in 40s&w, later I added a 9mm conversion.... shoot great either way. It will always hold a special place for me, first love kinda thing ... IMHO U CANT GO WRONG WITH P226. Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2

July 6, 2012, 11:11 PM	#39
Kazaam Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2012 Posts: 109	Thanks for all the replies everyone! Definitely extremely helpful. Question to the people who talk about weight...everyone always says the P226 is lighter, but if I compare the stainless CZ 75B to the P226 Elite, the CZ 75B is lighter. If i compare it to the regular P226, the CZ is only an ounce or so heavier. Is there something I'm missing here?

July 6, 2012, 11:17 PM	#40
IMightBeWrong Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Posts: 814	I picked the SIG. I've had experience with owning a P228 M11 overrun with an SRT installed and a CZ P-01 both in the past. Both are fantastic, but my 228 gave me a smoother shooting experience overall and I preferred the location of the controls and the takedown lever rather than removal of the slide stop. I also like the overall quality of the design. Not that it matters much, but the braided springs sure are cool! __________________ "Intelligence is nothing more than discussing things with others. Limitless wisdom comes of this." - 山本常朝

July 7, 2012, 11:24 AM	#42
excelerater Junior member Join Date: June 27, 2011 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 694	Talking about trigger jobs my CZ75s 9MM I had done at the custom shop..its nice,very much like early 3rd gen S&Ws but lighter......IMO they should all come this way std!

July 8, 2012, 12:48 PM	#43
shadowen Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 15	Have shot the Sig P226 - nice gun. Own two CZ 75Bs, both in black polycoat - my primary carry (with a Sig P230 as a backup). Hands down the better buy in my opinion - just give the trigger a bit of time to break in and you've got what I would consider a superior gun.

August 30, 2012, 07:37 PM	#44
Kazaam Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2012 Posts: 109	Gonna make a decision within the next week! Still between these two. CZ 75B stainless or P226 Elite Stainless

August 30, 2012, 08:32 PM	#45
smokehouse4444 Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 233	"DA/SA is just an inferior technique". Couldn't disagree more. I shoot a friend of mine's CZ quite often. It just doesn't do a thing for me for whatever reason. The SIG has the right feel for me. Not even close as far as I'm concerned.

August 30, 2012, 09:20 PM	#46
level10 Member Join Date: December 25, 2011 Posts: 32	Sig 226 is a great pistol i prefer the sig but there is nothing wrong with cz try them at your local range Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2

September 18, 2012, 12:36 AM	#48
Kazaam Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2012 Posts: 109	STILL havent decided!

September 18, 2012, 06:54 AM	#49
iblong Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2008 Location: MN Posts: 559	I have the 75B and the P-O1 both with trigger jobs Love them both. Both had medeocer triggers out of the box,gritty and stagey,but there both verry smooth now.