Apartments and guns

Fuzzy Dice · February 14, 2017, 06:27 PM

Quick question for anyone living/familiar with Knoxville, TN:

When looking at potential apartments or extended stay hotels in Knoxville, will I have to be concerned with landlords allowing possession of legally owned firearms (pistols/rifles)? Can they be prohibited in an apartment lease?

Is it basically a "don't bring it up and don't worry" proposition?

Any info would be appreciated.

Fuzzy

UncleEd · February 14, 2017, 06:35 PM

Keep your mouth shut, don't talk to your neighbors about them and when going in or out, carry man purse or attache case. And no hat, jacket or stickers.

When talking about apartments, this advice goes even for a gun friendly neighborhood or city.

If you can handle it, be a friendly nerd.

olddav · February 14, 2017, 06:35 PM

Don't offer to much info, read the lease agreement. If it doesn't prohibit firearms then no need to talk about it.

FITASC · February 14, 2017, 06:45 PM

READ your lease as mentioned. If it says no guns, find another place.

Chainsaw. · February 14, 2017, 10:15 PM

As stated, read the lease, otherwise its none of their business.

2123 · February 14, 2017, 10:32 PM

Loose lips sink ships.......or something like that.

I've rented in the past, and not once did a lease forbid firearms. Even if it had, it wouldn't have made any difference to me.

FITASC · February 14, 2017, 10:46 PM

Encouraging someone to break the law is not allowed here.

xcc_rider · February 14, 2017, 11:38 PM

A lease is an agreement not a law.
There can be financial repercussions but no legal ones.

g.willikers · February 15, 2017, 12:07 AM

Heck, if there were such a prohibition in a lease, it would probably be grounds for a discrimination law suit.
Gun owners have civil rights, the same as anyone else.
Wouldn't it be fun?

lefteye · February 15, 2017, 12:10 AM

I don't know anything about Tennessee firearms laws, but I do know two men living in Tennessee with awesome gun collections. I believe Tennessee is a very gun friendly state.

mete · February 15, 2017, 12:27 AM

The Barrett 50 is the official rifle of TN !!!

dakota.potts · February 15, 2017, 12:34 AM

I told my apartment complex in South Carolina that I was a gunsmith student and had guns. They said they had more residents with guns than without. Your mileage may vary

**Frank Ettin** · February 15, 2017, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g.willikers

Heck, if there were such a prohibition in a lease, it would probably be grounds for a discrimination law suit.....

Nope, discrimination is not illegal. You do it all the time. Every time you decide to shop in this store rather than that, you have discriminated. Every time you decide to buy this rather than that, you have discriminated.

Businesses discriminate all the time too, and legally. Apple stores discriminate against people who want to buy a PC by only selling Apple computers. Many restaurant discriminate against Orthodox Jews or Muslims by not strictly following the dietary laws of those religions. Many restaurants also discriminate against persons not wearing shirts and/or shoes by not admitting them. Tiffany discriminates against poor people in the prices they charge. Businesses also discriminate whenever they hire one person instead of another who has applied for the job.

Discrimination is merely choosing one thing over another or rejecting a possible choice. Discrimination is the very essence of freedom and private property. It is the right to choose. It is the right to exclude. It is the right to decide how you want to use your property.

Discrimination is perfectly legal, unless some law makes it illegal. There are laws that make discrimination illegal on various, specifically identified and defined bases, illegal -- at least if you're landlord. In general, gun owners are not, however, a protected class.

Fuzzy Dice · February 15, 2017, 06:43 AM

Thanks for all the great input. Being in New York where the state rifle is a whistle I can appreciate TN's adoption of the Barrett 50 as the state rifle.

Can't wait to get the heck out of here.

mete · February 15, 2017, 08:51 AM

BTW, you might look into weight of a safe .Some floors may not support the weight of a large full safe !

Rob228 · February 15, 2017, 10:20 AM

Just because the lease doesn't prohibit them doesn't mean you won't get an ignorant property manager who may think it does. Read the lease very carefully and don't advertise that you have firearms.

Slopemeno · February 15, 2017, 12:04 PM

Read the lease. Don't volunteer any information.

February 14, 2017, 06:27 PM	#1
Fuzzy Dice Junior Member Join Date: February 5, 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 13	Apartments and guns Quick question for anyone living/familiar with Knoxville, TN: When looking at potential apartments or extended stay hotels in Knoxville, will I have to be concerned with landlords allowing possession of legally owned firearms (pistols/rifles)? Can they be prohibited in an apartment lease? Is it basically a "don't bring it up and don't worry" proposition? Any info would be appreciated. Fuzzy

February 14, 2017, 06:35 PM	#3
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	Don't offer to much info, read the lease agreement. If it doesn't prohibit firearms then no need to talk about it. __________________ Never beat your head against the wall with out a helmet

February 14, 2017, 06:45 PM	#4
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,446	READ your lease as mentioned. If it says no guns, find another place. __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

February 14, 2017, 10:15 PM	#5
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	As stated, read the lease, otherwise its none of their business. __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

February 14, 2017, 10:32 PM	#6
2123 Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2014 Location: It changes.....a lot. Posts: 356	Loose lips sink ships.......or something like that. I've rented in the past, and not once did a lease forbid firearms. Even if it had, it wouldn't have made any difference to me. __________________ Airborne Rangers Lead The Way.

February 14, 2017, 06:35 PM	#2
UncleEd Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Location: N. Georgia Posts: 1,150	Keep your mouth shut, don't talk to your neighbors about them and when going in or out, carry man purse or attache case. And no hat, jacket or stickers. When talking about apartments, this advice goes even for a gun friendly neighborhood or city. If you can handle it, be a friendly nerd.

February 14, 2017, 10:46 PM	#7
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,446	Encouraging someone to break the law is not allowed here. __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

February 14, 2017, 11:38 PM	#8
xcc_rider Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2016 Posts: 169	A lease is an agreement not a law. There can be financial repercussions but no legal ones.

February 15, 2017, 12:07 AM	#9
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Heck, if there were such a prohibition in a lease, it would probably be grounds for a discrimination law suit. Gun owners have civil rights, the same as anyone else. Wouldn't it be fun? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

February 15, 2017, 12:10 AM	#10
lefteye Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Posts: 1,433	I don't know anything about Tennessee firearms laws, but I do know two men living in Tennessee with awesome gun collections. I believe Tennessee is a very gun friendly state. __________________ Vietnam Veteran ('69-'70) NRA Life Member RMEF Life Member

February 15, 2017, 12:27 AM	#11
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	The Barrett 50 is the official rifle of TN !!! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

February 15, 2017, 12:34 AM	#12
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	I told my apartment complex in South Carolina that I was a gunsmith student and had guns. They said they had more residents with guns than without. Your mileage may vary __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

February 15, 2017, 06:43 AM	#14
Fuzzy Dice Junior Member Join Date: February 5, 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 13	Thanks for all the great input. Being in New York where the state rifle is a whistle I can appreciate TN's adoption of the Barrett 50 as the state rifle. Can't wait to get the heck out of here.

February 15, 2017, 08:51 AM	#15
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	BTW, you might look into weight of a safe .Some floors may not support the weight of a large full safe ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

February 15, 2017, 10:20 AM	#16
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	Just because the lease doesn't prohibit them doesn't mean you won't get an ignorant property manager who may think it does. Read the lease very carefully and don't advertise that you have firearms.

February 15, 2017, 12:04 PM	#17
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	Read the lease. Don't volunteer any information.