Why I Stayed With The .40 - Page 2

subhuman · February 10, 2018, 10:13 PM

I shoot them all but favor the .40 pushing a 165 at around 1180-1200fps

the Tang and Shield are 9mm
.40 USP, P229,CZ 40B
.45 Sig 1911

Onward Allusion · February 10, 2018, 10:15 PM

40 S&W is the best compromise handgun caliber, ever. I have no problems carrying 9mm, 40 S&W, or 357Mag, but 40 gives me the capacity and oomph I want. My EDC is a G27. If 10 rounds of 40 ain't going to do the job, 11 rounds of 9mm in my G26 or 8 rounds of 357 Mag in my 627, aren't likely going to make much difference.

MandolinMan · February 10, 2018, 10:17 PM

Everyone is different and many factors like age, strength, lifestyle and experience influence pistol and caliber selection. What's great for one person may be not so good for another. The main thing is finding a pistol/caliber combination that you like and shoot well, and to keep training.

FrankenMauser · February 11, 2018, 01:49 AM

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I shoot them all but favor the .40 pushing a 165 at around 1180-1200fps

As long as we're talking full-size handguns that are nearly impossible to CC unless you weigh 300+ pounds and can tuck it between some rolls or under the Dunlop...

I prefer a .476" 375 gr bullet at 1,400 fps.
That would be .480 Ruger, if you're unfamiliar.

CDW4ME · February 11, 2018, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankenMauser

As long as we're talking full-size handguns that are nearly impossible to CC unless you weigh 300+ pounds and can tuck it between some rolls or under the Dunlop...

LOL

Do you consider a 1911 with 5'' barrel "full size"?
I'm 6'1 about 215# and easily conceal a 1911 or Glock 35, holster, position and cover garment all factor.
People at work might notice I never tuck in my shirt, not that I carry.

Road_Clam · February 11, 2018, 09:25 AM

9mm is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me.

45ACP is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me.

.40 S&W is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me.

I got so sick and tired of all the arguing with myself I eventually purchased all three ! Love each one for what it is

zipspyder · February 11, 2018, 09:46 AM

@Road_Clam - That's not the title of this thread or the purpose. 40 and 45 owners keep having to defend against the constant 9mm is the best ever weapon and how inferior or too big to carry they are compared to the 9mm, etc., etc...you have to have a great excuse to buy a 40+ or its just a waste.

brian33x51 · February 11, 2018, 09:49 AM

I like 10mm (and 40) but the cost of ammo and cost of the shield 9mm and taurus pt111 g2 this past summer (both around 200usd) and ny kids getting old enough to shoot made me get into 9mm.

I think 40 is still the way to go for a full sized service pistol against 2 legged targets. Cost of ammo is the only current downside...

zipspyder · February 11, 2018, 09:55 AM

That is a great reason to purchase a 9mm. You simply can't beat the price of 9mm ammo now days in any other caliber (22LR exception) unless you are a hardcore re-loader. I purchased 1K 40 cal rounds for $200 shipped and considered myself pretty lucky at that price.

dean1818 · February 11, 2018, 12:53 PM

I went with 40 for some of the same reasons.........

I used to load and have pistols for 9,40, and 45

All are good, but wanted to get to one common caliber

Fotay was my choice.....

Carl the Floor Walker · February 14, 2018, 04:53 AM

[B]"I never learn anything new from caliber war threads. It's like a repeat on television, over and over and over. I think every novice to shooting gets caught up in it and then you reach the point (hopefully) where you realize it's not about the caliber so much as it is about learning how to use your weapon effectively in a fight and that takes a lot of training and commitment to excellence and skill"I never learn anything new from caliber war threads. It's like a repeat on television, over and over and over. I think every novice to shooting gets caught up in it and then you reach the point (hopefully) where you realize it's not about the caliber so much as it is about learning how to use your weapon effectively in a fight and that takes a lot of training and commitment to excellence and skill.

You either become a tactics and skill guy or you remain merely a "gun guy" or "geardo" as they are referred to by many who see a lot of guys passionate about gear and caliber who, on the other hand, never advance beyond putting rounds through paper on a square range, from a static position."

I hear ya. Training and more Training trumps all calibers. Not to mention the fact that choosing a gun that you will carry each and every day, every where you go. Training is a commitment when you choose to carry and that cost is time and money. I spend more than I like and thank God for the versatile 9mm, the availability and lower cost. A small 9mm is the largest I know I will really carry on a day by day basis. And the recoil of a 9mm can be on the mild side, which does make handling and shooting more pleasant in a lot of training.
And I know many times I will just carry the small Pico in 380.But I do train extensively with that gun and I train with it weekly. A lot of rounds down range. I have heard all the arugments about calibers for so many years. I just focus on training with what I do have and what I will realistically carry.
In you can CCW a big 40 cal every day and afford to shoot it, then my hat is off to you. It just would not work for myself.

**Spats McGee** · February 14, 2018, 06:29 AM

And so another episode of Real Caliber Wars of the Internet comes to a close.

February 10, 2018, 10:15 PM	#27
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	40 S&W is the best compromise handgun caliber, ever. I have no problems carrying 9mm, 40 S&W, or 357Mag, but 40 gives me the capacity and oomph I want. My EDC is a G27. If 10 rounds of 40 ain't going to do the job, 11 rounds of 9mm in my G26 or 8 rounds of 357 Mag in my 627, aren't likely going to make much difference. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

February 10, 2018, 10:17 PM	#28
MandolinMan Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2013 Posts: 339	Everyone is different and many factors like age, strength, lifestyle and experience influence pistol and caliber selection. What's great for one person may be not so good for another. The main thing is finding a pistol/caliber combination that you like and shoot well, and to keep training. __________________ " The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." Col. Jeff Cooper

February 11, 2018, 09:25 AM	#31
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	9mm is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me. 45ACP is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me. .40 S&W is a better cartridge. Don't argue with me. I got so sick and tired of all the arguing with myself I eventually purchased all three ! Love each one for what it is __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"

February 11, 2018, 12:53 PM	#35
dean1818 Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 844	I went with 40 for some of the same reasons......... I used to load and have pistols for 9,40, and 45 All are good, but wanted to get to one common caliber Fotay was my choice..... __________________ An imperfect servant of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Buying American made, wherever I still can

February 14, 2018, 04:53 AM	#36
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	[B]"I never learn anything new from caliber war threads. It's like a repeat on television, over and over and over. I think every novice to shooting gets caught up in it and then you reach the point (hopefully) where you realize it's not about the caliber so much as it is about learning how to use your weapon effectively in a fight and that takes a lot of training and commitment to excellence and skill"I never learn anything new from caliber war threads. It's like a repeat on television, over and over and over. I think every novice to shooting gets caught up in it and then you reach the point (hopefully) where you realize it's not about the caliber so much as it is about learning how to use your weapon effectively in a fight and that takes a lot of training and commitment to excellence and skill. You either become a tactics and skill guy or you remain merely a "gun guy" or "geardo" as they are referred to by many who see a lot of guys passionate about gear and caliber who, on the other hand, never advance beyond putting rounds through paper on a square range, from a static position." I hear ya. Training and more Training trumps all calibers. Not to mention the fact that choosing a gun that you will carry each and every day, every where you go. Training is a commitment when you choose to carry and that cost is time and money. I spend more than I like and thank God for the versatile 9mm, the availability and lower cost. A small 9mm is the largest I know I will really carry on a day by day basis. And the recoil of a 9mm can be on the mild side, which does make handling and shooting more pleasant in a lot of training. And I know many times I will just carry the small Pico in 380.But I do train extensively with that gun and I train with it weekly. A lot of rounds down range. I have heard all the arugments about calibers for so many years. I just focus on training with what I do have and what I will realistically carry. In you can CCW a big 40 cal every day and afford to shoot it, then my hat is off to you. It just would not work for myself. Last edited by Carl the Floor Walker; February 14, 2018 at 05:26 AM.

February 10, 2018, 10:13 PM	#26
subhuman Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 383	I shoot them all but favor the .40 pushing a 165 at around 1180-1200fps the Tang and Shield are 9mm .40 USP, P229,CZ 40B .45 Sig 1911

February 11, 2018, 09:46 AM	#32
zipspyder Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2017 Posts: 429	@Road_Clam - That's not the title of this thread or the purpose. 40 and 45 owners keep having to defend against the constant 9mm is the best ever weapon and how inferior or too big to carry they are compared to the 9mm, etc., etc...you have to have a great excuse to buy a 40+ or its just a waste.

February 11, 2018, 09:49 AM	#33
brian33x51 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2005 Location: Denver area Posts: 221	I like 10mm (and 40) but the cost of ammo and cost of the shield 9mm and taurus pt111 g2 this past summer (both around 200usd) and ny kids getting old enough to shoot made me get into 9mm. I think 40 is still the way to go for a full sized service pistol against 2 legged targets. Cost of ammo is the only current downside...

February 11, 2018, 09:55 AM	#34
zipspyder Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2017 Posts: 429	That is a great reason to purchase a 9mm. You simply can't beat the price of 9mm ammo now days in any other caliber (22LR exception) unless you are a hardcore re-loader. I purchased 1K 40 cal rounds for $200 shipped and considered myself pretty lucky at that price.

February 14, 2018, 06:29 AM	#37
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	And so another episode of Real Caliber Wars of the Internet comes to a close. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

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