Arrest for ammo possession?

icedog88 · May 16, 2012, 06:41 AM

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...cache-in-texas

The couple was charged with possession of the ammo. Is it because they were illegals in possession or is it illegal to posses a certain amount of ammo there? And just what is assault rifle ammo?

209 · May 16, 2012, 07:22 AM

It's a violation of federal law.

Federal law prohibits ammunition sale or transfer to, and possession by, anyone who:

1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
4. ...
5. ...
6. is an illegal alien,

I guess we can assume it was also part of a criminal enterprise or conspiracy since they were "allegedly" delivering the ammo to a third party who may or may not have committed another crime by delivering it across the border. But it's a lot of assumptions as the article is short on facts.

I guess in the reporter's mind, an "assault rifle bullet" is one of those evil bullets that are much more dangerous than a regular bullet.

icedog88 · May 16, 2012, 07:45 AM

Quote:

6. is an illegal alien,

Thanks. That's what I thought it was but wanted to make sure there wasn't some law prohibiting possession of a certain number of rounds.

**Mike Irwin** · May 16, 2012, 09:39 AM

I'm pretty sure that in Washington, DC, it's a felony to have unregistered ammunition. I have to be careful when I bring my car into the district.

icedog88 · May 16, 2012, 09:54 AM

Yeah, but Mike, we are talking about in this country

carguychris · May 16, 2012, 11:29 AM

FWIW the pertinent sections of U.S. federal law are 18 USC § 922(d)(5)...

Quote:

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—
...
(5) who, being an alien—
(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
(B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26)))...

...and 18 USC § 922(g)(5).

Quote:

It shall be unlawful for any person—
...
(5) who, being an alien—
(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
(B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26)));
...
to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

FWIW a later section of the U.S. Code exempts a legal nonimmigrant visa holder if the person (a) has a hunting license and is using the firearm or ammo for legal sporting purposes, (b) is a foreign gov't official on accredited official business, (c) has been granted a waiver by the Dept of State, or (d) is a LEO from a friendly foreign country on official LE business. However, these exemptions seemingly aren't pertinent here.

brickeyee · May 16, 2012, 03:48 PM

You are talking about the press.

The same folks that believe every gun is 'registered.'

May 16, 2012, 06:41 AM	#1
icedog88 Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: norwich ct Posts: 737	Arrest for ammo possession? http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...cache-in-texas The couple was charged with possession of the ammo. Is it because they were illegals in possession or is it illegal to posses a certain amount of ammo there? And just what is assault rifle ammo? __________________ "The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps"-LtGen. Holland M "Howlin' Mad" Smith, USMC,1949 Have you forgotten yet? Look down and swear by the slain of the War that you'll NEVER forget. [Siegfried Sassoon,"Aftermath,"1919]

May 16, 2012, 09:39 AM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	I'm pretty sure that in Washington, DC, it's a felony to have unregistered ammunition. I have to be careful when I bring my car into the district. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 16, 2012, 09:54 AM	#5
icedog88 Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: norwich ct Posts: 737	Yeah, but Mike, we are talking about in this country __________________ "The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps"-LtGen. Holland M "Howlin' Mad" Smith, USMC,1949 Have you forgotten yet? Look down and swear by the slain of the War that you'll NEVER forget. [Siegfried Sassoon,"Aftermath,"1919]

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May 16, 2012, 07:22 AM	#2
209 Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 269	It's a violation of federal law. Federal law prohibits ammunition sale or transfer to, and possession by, anyone who: 1. ... 2. ... 3. ... 4. ... 5. ... 6. is an illegal alien, I guess we can assume it was also part of a criminal enterprise or conspiracy since they were "allegedly" delivering the ammo to a third party who may or may not have committed another crime by delivering it across the border. But it's a lot of assumptions as the article is short on facts. I guess in the reporter's mind, an "assault rifle bullet" is one of those evil bullets that are much more dangerous than a regular bullet.

May 16, 2012, 03:48 PM	#7
brickeyee Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 3,351	You are talking about the press. The same folks that believe every gun is 'registered.'