Point Shooting Progression with Sweatnbullets AAR

DonR101395 · May 19, 2008, 06:48 PM

I attended Roger Phillips Suarez Int. specialist instructor (aka Sweatnbullets on TFL) point shooting progression class this weekend in Hiawassee GA. This was an action packed information loaded course from the first minute. Roger cover a lot of material in depth during the two day course. Day one starts with point shooting basics from two yards out to 15 yards. He has you pushing the envelope considering that it is generally accepted that point shooting is a 2-7 yard activity. In the afternoon of day one he moves you into oblique angles and the fight continuum and getting off the X while point shooting. Starting with basic movement both to and from the aggressor using basic the "groucho walk" and side step progressively speeding things up.
Day two starts dynamic movement. The best way to describe this block of instruction is Roger pushes you to nearly a full gallop until you are shooting off the paper and then slows you down until you're back on paper to show you exactly how fast you can go and still make viable hits. He wants to see you happy with your performance and if you aren't happy with your performance on a drill you can run it again.
All total we had 18 hours of instruction on the range and expended approximately 1800 rounds in two days.

This is my first class from Roger, but I doubt it will be my last. I found him to be an excellent instructor and a genuine nice guy. If you get a chance I highly recommend him.

Below is the course outline as posted by Roger in other forums as you can see it makes for full training days.

Precision sighted fire

Flash sight picture shooting

Alternative aiming methods and the subconscious programming

Quick Fire (driving the gun)

Introduction and benefits of below line of sight point shooting

Mid point of drawstroke point shooting

Count three point shooting

Focal transition drills

Failure to stop drill

Thorough exploration of the “Zipper”

Two handed multiples at appropriate distances with appropriate extension, integration of sighted fire

Introduction and benefits of one handed point shooting (FSA=Fairbairn, Sykes, and Applegate)

Completely versatile drawstroke, using hand/eye coordination off of the visual centerline, eliminating any sort of stance dependence.

Line of sight point shooting (FSA point shoulder)

FSA three quarter hip

FSA half hip

Elbow up/ Elbow down

“First shot trigger technique”

Complete exploration of the progression of Elbow up/Elbow down

One handed focal transition drills

One handed failure to stop drill

One handed zipper, integration of sighted fire

One handed multiples at appropriate distances with appropriated extension, integration of sighted fire

Introduction to controlled movement and sighted fire

Fluid Situational Response

Get the heck out of Dodge movement and the use of cover with sighted fire

A complete exploration of the “dynamic movement drawstroke”

Four elements of accurate shooting with dynamic movement

Movement must have “purpose” lecture

Dynamic movement while fighting in all directions from varying distances with varying extension.

The gun In Quartata

Zippering on the move

Parallel tracking

Using movement to open up “sectors” and the complete exploration of those sectors

“The first shot drill”

Directional changes, feints, jukes, cutbacks, and elliptical movement

Footwork pivot

Confined spaces drills

Emergency response drill

Handgun transfers and ambidextrous shooting

Put it all together “Zig-zag” drills

Put it all together “S” drills (dependent on class size, “marching” drills will replace the “S” drills in larger classes)

threegun · May 21, 2008, 01:44 PM

I'm gonna take the course eventually.

Sweatnbullets · May 21, 2008, 10:22 PM

Threegun, looks like I will be back in Hiawassee Georgia this time next year. A couple of guys made the drive from Florida.

Donr "the quiet professional" thanks for the kind words. It was great to finally meet you.

DonR101395 · May 21, 2008, 11:26 PM

Thanks Roger, I hope to be in for next May also. The range and area in general in Hiawassee is one of the nicest I've had the pleasure of training at.

May 19, 2008, 06:48 PM	#1
DonR101395 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: NWFL Posts: 3,031	Point Shooting Progression with Sweatnbullets AAR I attended Roger Phillips Suarez Int. specialist instructor (aka Sweatnbullets on TFL) point shooting progression class this weekend in Hiawassee GA. This was an action packed information loaded course from the first minute. Roger cover a lot of material in depth during the two day course. Day one starts with point shooting basics from two yards out to 15 yards. He has you pushing the envelope considering that it is generally accepted that point shooting is a 2-7 yard activity. In the afternoon of day one he moves you into oblique angles and the fight continuum and getting off the X while point shooting. Starting with basic movement both to and from the aggressor using basic the "groucho walk" and side step progressively speeding things up. Day two starts dynamic movement. The best way to describe this block of instruction is Roger pushes you to nearly a full gallop until you are shooting off the paper and then slows you down until you're back on paper to show you exactly how fast you can go and still make viable hits. He wants to see you happy with your performance and if you aren't happy with your performance on a drill you can run it again. All total we had 18 hours of instruction on the range and expended approximately 1800 rounds in two days. This is my first class from Roger, but I doubt it will be my last. I found him to be an excellent instructor and a genuine nice guy. If you get a chance I highly recommend him. Below is the course outline as posted by Roger in other forums as you can see it makes for full training days. Precision sighted fire Flash sight picture shooting Alternative aiming methods and the subconscious programming Quick Fire (driving the gun) Introduction and benefits of below line of sight point shooting Mid point of drawstroke point shooting Count three point shooting Focal transition drills Failure to stop drill Thorough exploration of the “Zipper” Two handed multiples at appropriate distances with appropriate extension, integration of sighted fire Introduction and benefits of one handed point shooting (FSA=Fairbairn, Sykes, and Applegate) Completely versatile drawstroke, using hand/eye coordination off of the visual centerline, eliminating any sort of stance dependence. Line of sight point shooting (FSA point shoulder) FSA three quarter hip FSA half hip Elbow up/ Elbow down “First shot trigger technique” Complete exploration of the progression of Elbow up/Elbow down One handed focal transition drills One handed failure to stop drill One handed zipper, integration of sighted fire One handed multiples at appropriate distances with appropriated extension, integration of sighted fire Introduction to controlled movement and sighted fire Fluid Situational Response Get the heck out of Dodge movement and the use of cover with sighted fire A complete exploration of the “dynamic movement drawstroke” Four elements of accurate shooting with dynamic movement Movement must have “purpose” lecture Dynamic movement while fighting in all directions from varying distances with varying extension. The gun In Quartata Zippering on the move Parallel tracking Using movement to open up “sectors” and the complete exploration of those sectors “The first shot drill” Directional changes, feints, jukes, cutbacks, and elliptical movement Footwork pivot Confined spaces drills Emergency response drill Handgun transfers and ambidextrous shooting Put it all together “Zig-zag” drills Put it all together “S” drills (dependent on class size, “marching” drills will replace the “S” drills in larger classes) Last edited by DonR101395; May 19, 2008 at 08:13 PM.

May 21, 2008, 10:22 PM	#3
Sweatnbullets Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2002 Posts: 263	Threegun, looks like I will be back in Hiawassee Georgia this time next year. A couple of guys made the drive from Florida. Donr "the quiet professional" thanks for the kind words. It was great to finally meet you. __________________ "Situations dictate strategy, strategy dictates tactics, tactics dictate techniques.....techniques should not dictate anything." Roger Phillips, Owner and Operator of Fight Focused Concepts

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May 21, 2008, 01:44 PM	#2
threegun Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2006 Location: Tampa,Fl Posts: 4,000	I'm gonna take the course eventually.

May 21, 2008, 11:26 PM	#4
DonR101395 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: NWFL Posts: 3,031	Thanks Roger, I hope to be in for next May also. The range and area in general in Hiawassee is one of the nicest I've had the pleasure of training at.