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Old November 5, 2014, 03:21 AM   #26
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please run it by us, why do you need to remove the primers again?
I can't even remember!!

Seriously, I can't. It must have been a conclusion I drew after a discussion on here: that is about the only I reach new conclusions on handloading!

It may have been that these were the cases that had experienced hotter loads in one OCW strings and I had subsequently felt that the pockets were loose and I didn't want to bin cases with primers in situ.

My memory is a disgrace at times!!
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Old November 5, 2014, 05:27 AM   #27
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Well, in that case, a good way to kill a love primer is to load it up and shoot it. If you don't feel safe, then just fire the primer in your gun w/o powder and bullet. Problem solved
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Old November 5, 2014, 06:00 AM   #28
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Tried that: would feed from the mag without a bullet and I didn't want to damage the ramp so I didn't force it.

I think I'll just wear chainsaw gloves, earplugs, my crash helmet, a bomb-disposal suit with a double layer of incontinence pads and try with the press....
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Old November 5, 2014, 12:08 PM   #29
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No need (and no point) to trying to feed the empty cases from the magazine into the chamber.

There is no firearm I know of where you cannot carefully fit the case to the boltface, by hand, hooking the rim/extractor groove under the extractor, and guide the case into the chamber as you carefully close the action.

Then just fire the darn thing, to pop off the problem primer.
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Old November 5, 2014, 02:40 PM   #30
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Tried that: would feed from the mag without a bullet and I didn't want to damage the ramp so I didn't force it.
If the brass case hurts the steel ramp, you have bigger problems than trying to pop a few primers....
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Old November 5, 2014, 05:04 PM   #31
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With a standard press, I would simply decap as with a spent primer. Even if you detonate a primer, there is too little compound and resulting gas to bother the extraneous volume within the die. At worst, a fussbudget might want to clean the die of combustion products when done.

A large part of my reasoning comes from fooling around with .22LR rounds as a kid. Friends and I pulled bullets from the ammo and found various foolish ways to expend the powder. We discovered that we could detonate the priming mix by sticking a sewing needle into the case, levering it between the case mouth and rim, and rapidly run the needle around the inside of the rim. The result is a surprisingly mild pop and a sooty finger. The real entertainment came from talking the unsuspecting into doing it (ain't younger siblings great?) A centerfire primer, even if it is several times more powerful than that .22LR (which I doubt,) contained within a die, seems unlikely to cause problems. Of course, all the lawyerly weasel words apply and you are on your own.
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Old November 5, 2014, 07:52 PM   #32
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I've pressed out a lot of live primers over the years and not one has ever gone off. These days I use a Lee universal decapper die with a hand press. So if I were concerned about a primer going off, I'd take the whole process outside or to the garage...

That was an interesting trick about show ammo. The one time I made some for a friend, I center drilled the hollow point bullets to let out any blast from the primers if one were chambered and fired. The one we tested wasn't uncrimped by the primer blast...

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Old November 5, 2014, 08:54 PM   #33
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FWIW, I have decapped probably a few hundred live primers over the years and never had one go off. Just pressure alone won't set off a primer; it takes a very rapid blow.

For dummy rounds, I just don't install any primer, just leaving the hole empty, a clear indication that the round cannot be fired, though I also drill holes in the sides of the case. For action functioning dummies, I drop a piece of wood dowel into the case to keep the bullet from being forced back into the case in repeated feedings.

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Old November 6, 2014, 02:36 PM   #34
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A centerfire primer, even if it is several times more powerful than that .22LR (which I doubt,)
The quoted text is not entirely clear to me, but I'll say that if you think that a centerfire primer is not SEVERAL times more powerful than that of cheap bulk rimfire, then I would suggest that you go back to your roots and experiment.

And take pictures.
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