Lee Enfield NO4 Mk1 *

Kuzaj · August 13, 2018, 05:31 AM

Hello, I'm new here, i'm from Belgium and 26.

I'm planning to buy a Leen Enfield NO4 Mk1* with a repro scope.

As you can see on the photo:

NO4 MK1* Long Branch 1943. So in my opinion this Lee Enfield is made in Canada. But if you look at the other picture you can see on the sighter a stamp "ENGLAND".

I'm not sure, but i don't think this is right?

What is the market price for this gun?

Thx!!

T. O'Heir · August 14, 2018, 12:00 PM

"...stamp "ENGLAND"...." Hi. That's just an importer's stamp required by the U.S. Means the rifle was in England at some time. There should be the 'BNP' proof stamps on it too. Proofing is required by the Brits on any milsurp sold through there.
The 'Long Branch' stamp does mean it was made here. Grew up about 5 miles from the factory. Been in the building after our idiot government closed the place in 1975. The building is gone now. Nothing left at all. Long Branch is now part of the City of Mississauga, Ontario. The plant was at what is now Dixie Rd and Lakeshore Rd. on the South side.
Anyway, get proof of good headspace before you buy it. Lotta Lee-Enfields have been assembled out of parts bins with no QC. The bolt head isn't necessarily the original bolt head.
And slug the barrel. Not all of 'em are .311" diameter. They can go to .315" and still be considered ok. Issue is that ammo, both commercial hunting and milsurp, use .311" or .312" diameter bullets.
It's value will be decidedly different in Belgium than they are here or in the U.S. However, condition is everything.
Some good Lee-Enfield sites.
http://www.303british.com/
http://www.allaboutenfields.co.nz/history/markings/
Can't see your pictures well. Too dark.

Model12Win · August 16, 2018, 11:07 PM

Great rifle that is still being used as a combat rifle all around the world even to this very day.

Ben Dover · August 30, 2018, 01:41 PM

I've had a Long Branch No.4 Mk1* for 50 years. Shot the hell out of it when MilSurp ammo was available and cheap.

Wolf is now making steel case military ammo for a reasonable price, so it's going to be shot again very soon.

jrothWA · September 1, 2018, 07:46 PM

to just "neck size" the fired case.

The British Army, wanted any ammo picked up on the battlefield, to chamber and fire, no matter how dirty / muddy the round .

In this matter, the chamber has a 1/16 " clearance at the chamber.

Remember the case has a rim.

so full lenght resizing will SHORTEN case life.

Neck sizing will extend case life.

Good luck.h

jolly roger · September 4, 2018, 09:37 AM

Neck size with Lee Collet die and use Sierra 174 match bullets and an appropriate dose of 3031 and it'll shoot like a match rifle

August 14, 2018, 12:00 PM	#2
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...stamp "ENGLAND"...." Hi. That's just an importer's stamp required by the U.S. Means the rifle was in England at some time. There should be the 'BNP' proof stamps on it too. Proofing is required by the Brits on any milsurp sold through there. The 'Long Branch' stamp does mean it was made here. Grew up about 5 miles from the factory. Been in the building after our idiot government closed the place in 1975. The building is gone now. Nothing left at all. Long Branch is now part of the City of Mississauga, Ontario. The plant was at what is now Dixie Rd and Lakeshore Rd. on the South side. Anyway, get proof of good headspace before you buy it. Lotta Lee-Enfields have been assembled out of parts bins with no QC. The bolt head isn't necessarily the original bolt head. And slug the barrel. Not all of 'em are .311" diameter. They can go to .315" and still be considered ok. Issue is that ammo, both commercial hunting and milsurp, use .311" or .312" diameter bullets. It's value will be decidedly different in Belgium than they are here or in the U.S. However, condition is everything. Some good Lee-Enfield sites. http://www.303british.com/ http://www.allaboutenfields.co.nz/history/markings/ Can't see your pictures well. Too dark. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

August 30, 2018, 01:41 PM	#4
Ben Dover Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2013 Location: High up in the Rocky Moun Posts: 665	I've had a Long Branch No.4 Mk1* for 50 years. Shot the hell out of it when MilSurp ammo was available and cheap. Wolf is now making steel case military ammo for a reasonable price, so it's going to be shot again very soon. __________________ The soldier's pack is not so heavy a burden as the prisoner's chains. Dwight Eisenhower It is very important what a man stands for. But it is far more important what a man refuses to stand for.

September 1, 2018, 07:46 PM	#5
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	FYI: if you reload. adjust the sizing die.. to just "neck size" the fired case. The British Army, wanted any ammo picked up on the battlefield, to chamber and fire, no matter how dirty / muddy the round . In this matter, the chamber has a 1/16 " clearance at the chamber. Remember the case has a rim. so full lenght resizing will SHORTEN case life. Neck sizing will extend case life. Good luck.h

August 16, 2018, 11:07 PM	#3
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Great rifle that is still being used as a combat rifle all around the world even to this very day.

September 4, 2018, 09:37 AM	#6
jolly roger Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 179	Neck size with Lee Collet die and use Sierra 174 match bullets and an appropriate dose of 3031 and it'll shoot like a match rifle