Powerfactor?

Valerko · May 20, 2014, 10:14 PM

I'm still little confused on classes , but I know I wanna shoot major PF

I only shot one USPSA match and used my CZ 97 in 45 , what I didn't know what class I'm in , so ended up in production , so shooting 45 was no advantage.
After little reasrch , I've found out I could've go to limited 10 and shoot major.
I also have CZ 75 sp01 shadow target ( sweet gun from CZ custom)
Question I'm asking is , is it easier to reach major using 9?
Or should I just go completely different round and get CZ in 40 ?
( kind of love CZ

)

MarkDozier · May 21, 2014, 12:23 AM

"I'm still little confused on classes , but I know I wanna shoot major PF"

"I only shot one USPSA match and used my CZ 97 in 45 , what I didn't know what class I'm in , so ended up in production , so shooting 45 was no advantage."
You are incorrect. You can easily shoot major in production. You declare if you are shooting major or minor when up sign up at the match. Unless they have a chronograph stage they just take your word for PF.
Major gives you more points.

"After little reasrch , I've found out I could've go to limited 10 and shoot major.
I also have CZ 75 sp01 shadow target ( sweet gun from CZ custom)
Question I'm asking is , is it easier to reach major using 9?"
NO. harder to make major with a 9MM.

Or should I just go completely different round and get CZ in 40 ?
NO, unless you just want a 40.

Power Factor is:
bullet weight x velocity /1000

200 grain bullet x 790 FPS / 1000 = 152 power factor (minor)
230 grain bullet x 790 FPS / 1000 = 181 power factor (major)
As you can see there are a number of factors to making PF.

There are several good resources on youtube. The PowerFactor show is a good one.

The best to do is get in a USPSA safety brief/training. Also get the rule book and start reading it. Download it from here.
http://www.uspsa.org/document_librar...un%20Rules.pdf

g.willikers · May 21, 2014, 08:14 AM

Everyone is scored minor in Production.
So, there's no advantage to a .45, there.
But there's also no advantage to high capacity, since there's a 10 round limit.

Jim Watson · May 21, 2014, 08:35 AM

It is not easier to make Major with a 9mm than a .40 or .45.
You can only be scored Major with a 9mm or .38 in Open Division, where the scope sighted compensated 28 shot pistols rule.

It would pay you to read the rules before buying another gun.

g.willikers · May 21, 2014, 08:57 AM

Question:
Do you want to shoot major solely for the scoring advantage, or to maintain proficiency with the more powerful rounds?
Bear in mind that even loads that make USPSA major are not necessarily equivalent in power to self defense ammo.

RickB · May 21, 2014, 10:55 AM

And, this discussion concerns competitive divisions, not classes.

Valerko · June 5, 2014, 09:03 PM

Yes, I wanna shoot major for scoring purposes. Since I'm in NY , only way to shoot major would be in limited or limited 10 which is pretty much same thing here. Open is really not my thing.
So to make it more interesting I've bought CZ 75 TS in 40 s&w.
So now I have one in every flavor 75 Sp01 shadow target in 9mm , 97b in 45 and TS in 40. That solves the problem.

Don P · June 22, 2014, 04:15 PM

Limited 10 would be the division to choose.

Valerko · June 22, 2014, 09:39 PM

That's what I did last weekend.
I've shot IDPA on Saturday ( ended winning SSP class and 3rd overall)
And USPSA on Sunday. Came in 5th in limited 10 and 11th overall.
Now I'm off to Safariland website to get real equipment.

http://youtu.be/rA6DclskAVc

May 20, 2014, 10:14 PM	#1
Valerko Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2012 Location: NY Posts: 184	Powerfactor? I'm still little confused on classes , but I know I wanna shoot major PF I only shot one USPSA match and used my CZ 97 in 45 , what I didn't know what class I'm in , so ended up in production , so shooting 45 was no advantage. After little reasrch , I've found out I could've go to limited 10 and shoot major. I also have CZ 75 sp01 shadow target ( sweet gun from CZ custom) Question I'm asking is , is it easier to reach major using 9? Or should I just go completely different round and get CZ in 40 ? ( kind of love CZ) )

May 21, 2014, 08:14 AM	#3
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Everyone is scored minor in Production. So, there's no advantage to a .45, there. But there's also no advantage to high capacity, since there's a 10 round limit. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

May 21, 2014, 08:57 AM	#5
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Question: Do you want to shoot major solely for the scoring advantage, or to maintain proficiency with the more powerful rounds? Bear in mind that even loads that make USPSA major are not necessarily equivalent in power to self defense ammo. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

June 22, 2014, 04:15 PM	#8
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Limited 10 would be the division to choose. __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

May 21, 2014, 12:23 AM	#2
MarkDozier Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Posts: 363	"I'm still little confused on classes , but I know I wanna shoot major PF" "I only shot one USPSA match and used my CZ 97 in 45 , what I didn't know what class I'm in , so ended up in production , so shooting 45 was no advantage." You are incorrect. You can easily shoot major in production. You declare if you are shooting major or minor when up sign up at the match. Unless they have a chronograph stage they just take your word for PF. Major gives you more points. "After little reasrch , I've found out I could've go to limited 10 and shoot major. I also have CZ 75 sp01 shadow target ( sweet gun from CZ custom) Question I'm asking is , is it easier to reach major using 9?" NO. harder to make major with a 9MM. Or should I just go completely different round and get CZ in 40 ? NO, unless you just want a 40. Power Factor is: bullet weight x velocity /1000 200 grain bullet x 790 FPS / 1000 = 152 power factor (minor) 230 grain bullet x 790 FPS / 1000 = 181 power factor (major) As you can see there are a number of factors to making PF. There are several good resources on youtube. The PowerFactor show is a good one. The best to do is get in a USPSA safety brief/training. Also get the rule book and start reading it. Download it from here. http://www.uspsa.org/document_librar...un%20Rules.pdf

May 21, 2014, 08:35 AM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,539	It is not easier to make Major with a 9mm than a .40 or .45. You can only be scored Major with a 9mm or .38 in Open Division, where the scope sighted compensated 28 shot pistols rule. It would pay you to read the rules before buying another gun.

May 21, 2014, 10:55 AM	#6
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	And, this discussion concerns competitive divisions, not classes.

June 5, 2014, 09:03 PM	#7
Valerko Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2012 Location: NY Posts: 184	Yes, I wanna shoot major for scoring purposes. Since I'm in NY , only way to shoot major would be in limited or limited 10 which is pretty much same thing here. Open is really not my thing. So to make it more interesting I've bought CZ 75 TS in 40 s&w. So now I have one in every flavor 75 Sp01 shadow target in 9mm , 97b in 45 and TS in 40. That solves the problem.

June 22, 2014, 09:39 PM	#9
Valerko Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2012 Location: NY Posts: 184	That's what I did last weekend. I've shot IDPA on Saturday ( ended winning SSP class and 3rd overall) And USPSA on Sunday. Came in 5th in limited 10 and 11th overall. Now I'm off to Safariland website to get real equipment. http://youtu.be/rA6DclskAVc