NYC Arrest of "defaced" guns? - Page 2

Beretta686 · October 31, 2013, 12:41 PM

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NY State law makes no distinction for airports or almost all other buildings. Typically, the only prohibited areas are the federal restrictions, the state equivalents and universities/schools. It's one of those areas where "anti-gun NY" is actually better than most supposed "gun friendly" states. There are a few weird ones but not like people would assume.

Is this in regards to concealed carry too? Such as if you can get a permit, you can carry it in more places, than you can in other states where a permit is more easily gotten?

Brian Pfleuger · October 31, 2013, 01:07 PM

Specifically to concealed carry. There is no open carry and there is no ownership/possession of handguns without a permit.

Yes, for instance,

Bar/alcohol establishments are not restricted.

"No Guns" signs carry no more force of law than trespassing if caught.

No duty to inform.

Banks are not restricted.

wogpotter · October 31, 2013, 04:21 PM

There is also the difference between New York (city) & New York (state) to factor in. NYC has been it's own weird little world for ever even within New York State.

Brian Pfleuger · October 31, 2013, 05:31 PM

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NYC has been it's own weird little world

True, dat.

Almost literally their own little world.

**44 AMP** · October 31, 2013, 07:29 PM

NEW YORK CITY does not honor New York STATE issued permits. Not for at least the last 50 years, and possibly never did.

The only permits that are valid in NYC are those issued in NYC.

**Tom Servo** · October 31, 2013, 07:33 PM

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Not for at least the last 50 years, and possibly never did.

IIRC, that goes back as far as 1911.

Brian Pfleuger · October 31, 2013, 07:54 PM

That's true, the Sullivan Law. A notorious, explicitly racist law, from a notoriously corrupt Timothy Sullivan, in an already notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall. Passed specifically to disarm the victims of Sullivan's mob friends.

October 31, 2013, 01:07 PM	#27
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Specifically to concealed carry. There is no open carry and there is no ownership/possession of handguns without a permit. Yes, for instance, Bar/alcohol establishments are not restricted. "No Guns" signs carry no more force of law than trespassing if caught. No duty to inform. Banks are not restricted. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

October 31, 2013, 04:21 PM	#28
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	There is also the difference between New York (city) & New York (state) to factor in. NYC has been it's own weird little world for ever even within New York State. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

October 31, 2013, 07:29 PM	#30
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,820	NEW YORK CITY does not honor New York STATE issued permits. Not for at least the last 50 years, and possibly never did. The only permits that are valid in NYC are those issued in NYC. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 31, 2013, 07:54 PM	#32
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	NYC Arrest of "defaced" guns? That's true, the Sullivan Law. A notorious, explicitly racist law, from a notoriously corrupt Timothy Sullivan, in an already notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall. Passed specifically to disarm the victims of Sullivan's mob friends.