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July 18, 2021, 09:39 AM | #1 |
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Does Kimber 4" revolver make sense?
My understanding of Kimber revolver strategy is to make lighter, more concealable, portable revolvers without getting into aluminium or light alloy frames. That means some sacrifices by the shooter of .357 mag - unpleasant recoil. I think it's OK, however, when you get into 4" or longer barrel territory, my expectations are that the recoil should be much less in .357 mag because it's a bigger, heavier revolver and it must be easy on your hand. I don't think it is happening. The gun is too light. What do you think?
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July 18, 2021, 12:05 PM | #2 |
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You didn't mention what you wanted it for but for me, a 4" barrel would be longer that I'd want to try to tote around concealed.
Probably be good as a holstered trail or open carry gun if it's light. Maybe not so much for a lot of range/plinking shooting where I'd want something heavier. But then again, I've become kinda' recoil-sensitive as the years have piled up... |
July 18, 2021, 01:53 PM | #3 |
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Taurus makes a light Tracker and a med heavy 66 in 4". Might help you answer the question if lighter guns in the same barrel length change felt recoil.
If not a trail gun, I wouldn't like a 4" revolver to carry.
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July 18, 2021, 08:51 PM | #4 |
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wild cat... What is the best revolver barrel length to carry in your opinion?
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July 19, 2021, 05:10 AM | #5 |
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A couple years ago I picked up a used Rossi, I forget the model number, but it was a 3” barrel, held six rounds, roughly a J frame size handle but a K size frame, in .357 magnum. For me it was the perfect size and combination firepower for CC. When it actually functioned I shot it very well with standard.38 sp loads. Due to it’s constant malfunctioning, and it being part of Taurus’s recall a couple years ago I returned it for repair. Unfortunately they wouldn’t repair it but did replace it with a gun that I hated and sold off.
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July 19, 2021, 12:54 PM | #7 |
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With a lot of patience, took almost a year and a half to be completely resolved. But, hey, it could have been worse, especially since I wasn’t the original purchaser. Like they say, it beats a stick in the eye. All in all I broke even money wise. I almost wished I’d taken the option of accepting the gun returned broken and letting them off the hook by doing so. I really liked the gun and should have just either repaired it myself or had a gunsmith fix it.
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July 19, 2021, 01:06 PM | #8 |
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I have a 2.5" Kimber K6 that's no problem shooting heavy 357 self defense loads-all it needed was the comfort control grips so the back strap of the metal grip is cushioned a bit. They made a huge difference
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July 20, 2021, 08:47 PM | #9 |
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I have an opinion that isn't terribly helpful...I don't think J-frames carry all that well for my lifestyle as they are like an orange in the pocket. So really no revolver. I think 2" would be it. A 3 and 4 inch revolver is getting pretty dang long.
I didn't mean go with Taurus. Not in the slightest. I just meant to say you might try googling owner real world experience using the Taurus light Tracker vs the medium heavy M66 as your google search criteria for recoil between the two frames. A Taurus M66 is more like a S&W 66/686 mix and the Tracker is probably more close to the 4" Kimber that you are thinking. While the Tracker is ported, you'll probably find the comparison of recoil you are looking for. I think most people who shoot 357 are recoil junkies though. 357 recoil is absurd in a small revolver for the juice you get. I don't know. I think if you wanted 357, I get your interest in the 4" barrel for the 357. Since you asked, I think you can accomplish the same defense role in something better for all the space all with a better bullet in 9mm. Meh.
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July 20, 2021, 09:50 PM | #10 |
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Frankly I would not consider anything less than 4" in .357 mag, primarily because of the recoil. I know it's a bad comparison because that S&W I one had had aluminium frame but 2.5 inch in 38 special was a real torture and my hand would feel pain for 2 days (3 days with+P). Of course, everybody is different and I would imagine for some people it would be fine.
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July 20, 2021, 10:20 PM | #11 |
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I guess I don't see the problem carrying a 4" revolver. Years ago I toted a 4" S&W M65 before I went to a Colt Government. These days it's a G19. All of these in an OWB holster under an untucked shirt. What's the deference?
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July 23, 2021, 06:36 AM | #13 |
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Personally I would love to have a Kimber K6 in either length. I also do not believe any gun other than a small 380 is meant for a pocket. If you want a Revolver without getting into aluminum or light alloy frames, then I would suggest the LCR9mm. Easy to shoot, strong, solid, ballistics and are great without the harsh recoil of the 357 or the noise and flash of the 327. That said, if the ammo shortage was not going on, I would get the 327 and carry 32 H&R magnum.
Not saying you cannot put it in a pocket, but easy to carry on a close to the body holster. Weighs only 17oz. I shoot the LCR9mm often, )or at least I did before the shortage) typically loaded up 40 moonclips the night before going to the range. https://revolverguy.com/the-327-fede...num-ruger-lcr/ |
July 25, 2021, 02:14 AM | #14 |
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kimber k6s TLE.jpg this is a stock picture of my Kimber K6s TLE 3" bbl. .357 is quite stout without gloves. .38sp is very easy on the hands
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August 15, 2021, 02:44 PM | #15 |
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Can you tell me about your grips please? I just got a 2” K6s (dasa) and I’d like to see if there is a way to get a different grip to work.
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@Schlitz 45 try the Hogue Bantam - a lot of folks like it, some folks do not, feel there ought to be more. For my med/large hands, this grip is at the very edge of useful - therefore, it works
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September 21, 2021, 06:30 PM | #17 |
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Great question. For concealed carry along with Federal HST Micro 38 +P wadcutter my go to is the 2inch. Let me rank them according to my usage. Meaning my intent purpose is 60% concealed carry, 30% home defense 10% range fun. In order this would mean
Kimber 2inch Kimber 3inch Kimber 4inch Though the Kimber 4inch is the most fun on the range. I hope that makes since. Here is a video of all barrel lengths across the chronograph with 158gr 357Magnum. https://dayattherange.com/?p=7074
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September 22, 2021, 09:42 PM | #18 |
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My CC gun is Bersa single stock, if I go to a place where there may be wild animals like bears - then G19. I tried and failed to conceal a revolver - it is not flat enough for me.
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September 24, 2021, 11:37 AM | #19 |
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All this talk about fearing bears makes me wonder. I have seen so many black bears, I could not even count 'em.
All these people wanting bear protection- have you ever actually seen a black bear? My comments are different if you live in Alaska or are out west packing out elk meat. Then the pistol question is obvious. Have a big rifle and a couple of watchful friends. I like the Bersa Thunder a lot for woods walking, but it throws the brass into the weeds. I got the Ruger LCRx in .38 and 3" barrel as my woods gun. I wish it was 4" for the better sight radius. I shoot tin cans, pine cones, and spent shotgun shells I find in the trail. I pack out the trash I find, after I make sure it's dead. 4" is a nice length for a woods revolver. Animals just don't scare me. I was glad to see a couple of Grizzlies in Wyoming at about a mile distance. We got out of there, because a mile is pretty close at the speed a grizzly can run. Not scared, just being smart. Even with a .444 marlin, I would still not feel safe against a grizzly, all alone.
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September 24, 2021, 05:47 PM | #20 |
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A 3" 357 is about the same length as a Glock 19 (one of the most popular CC semi autos out there.) A 4" is going to be longer, putting you into equivalence of a Glock 34 which is not a good choice for IWB carry in my honest opinion. OWB with a good (long) cover garment, sure.
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