.45 ACP and Universal Clays

HowardK · February 19, 2000, 01:14 AM

I'm getting very frustrated trying to figure the right load for a .45 ACP (in a Government model 1911) using 200gr. LSWC and Universal Clays.

Hodgdon says 6-6.7 gr.; another loader says 5.4gr., etc. My questions are (in the real world):

1. What is the correct middle range for 200gr. LSWC and Universal Clays?

2. What is the lightest load you have shot with this configuration?

Daniel Watters · February 20, 2000, 01:05 AM

A lot could depend upon which 200gr LSWC with which the data was developed. Some seat far deeper in the case while others have more weight in the nose, like the H&G #68. Of course, some may state SWC but they used a swaged version instead of cast, or even a jacketed projectile.

Check the cartridge over-all length, and I suspect that you'll see the difference between the data sources.

[This message has been edited by Daniel Watters (edited February 22, 2000).]

cheyenne · February 22, 2000, 02:44 PM

I had excellent results with 6.3 gr. Universal behind the 200LSWC in my COLT Govern. 70 series.
Excellent precision.
Hope this can help you

Trigger Jerk · February 22, 2000, 07:01 PM

I use 6.7 grains of Universal Clays behind a Grier's hard cast 200 grain SWC. I load them to OAL of 1.260 and have been very pleased with the results....makes major (at least in my gun), leaves little or no unburned powder, measures consistenly, and gives decent accuracy (better than me).

I started at about 6.0 and worked up from there.

CCV · February 23, 2000, 06:02 PM

I have had good results with 6.5 grains of Universal Clays and a 200 gr. cast SWC.

[This message has been edited by CCV (edited February 23, 2000).]

WESHOOT2 · February 23, 2000, 09:12 PM

You might consider W231 with that bullet.

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February 19, 2000, 01:14 AM	#1
HowardK Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 1999 Posts: 100	I'm getting very frustrated trying to figure the right load for a .45 ACP (in a Government model 1911) using 200gr. LSWC and Universal Clays. Hodgdon says 6-6.7 gr.; another loader says 5.4gr., etc. My questions are (in the real world): 1. What is the correct middle range for 200gr. LSWC and Universal Clays? 2. What is the lightest load you have shot with this configuration?

February 20, 2000, 01:05 AM	#2
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	A lot could depend upon which 200gr LSWC with which the data was developed. Some seat far deeper in the case while others have more weight in the nose, like the H&G #68. Of course, some may state SWC but they used a swaged version instead of cast, or even a jacketed projectile. Check the cartridge over-all length, and I suspect that you'll see the difference between the data sources. [This message has been edited by Daniel Watters (edited February 22, 2000).]

February 22, 2000, 02:44 PM	#3
cheyenne Member Join Date: January 24, 2000 Posts: 32	I had excellent results with 6.3 gr. Universal behind the 200LSWC in my COLT Govern. 70 series. Excellent precision. Hope this can help you

February 22, 2000, 07:01 PM	#4
Trigger Jerk Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 1999 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 136	I use 6.7 grains of Universal Clays behind a Grier's hard cast 200 grain SWC. I load them to OAL of 1.260 and have been very pleased with the results....makes major (at least in my gun), leaves little or no unburned powder, measures consistenly, and gives decent accuracy (better than me). I started at about 6.0 and worked up from there.

February 23, 2000, 06:02 PM	#5
CCV Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 1999 Posts: 128	I have had good results with 6.5 grains of Universal Clays and a 200 gr. cast SWC. [This message has been edited by CCV (edited February 23, 2000).]

February 23, 2000, 09:12 PM	#6
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	You might consider W231 with that bullet. ------------------ "All my ammo is factory ammo"