Xtreme .224" 5.56mm 55gr FMJ Bullets...Opinions?

Nathan · June 30, 2014, 01:43 PM

Looked like a good bulk deal, so I'm in for trying them. Any opinions on these?

Bullet Link

Gadawg88 · June 30, 2014, 04:41 PM

I use them and like them for plinking/fun at the range ammo. I find them comparable to the Hornady fmjbt 55gn. Of the two, I order whichever is cheapest at the time.

StripesDude · June 30, 2014, 10:08 PM

I buy their 9mm and 45 and both work well. Same price as many lead bullets.

Jim243 · June 30, 2014, 11:28 PM

Decent price.

Jim

skizzums · July 1, 2014, 10:56 AM

when i buy bullets, i use extreme pretty much exclusively, i sometimes use grafs for brand name stuff

extreme always has what i need in stock and they ship to your door in a couple days

Jay24bal · July 1, 2014, 12:25 PM

I have used them before, and they are great for plinking loads. I generally order from Xtreme or the Hornady 55 FMJ w/ cannelure, depending on what is cheaper at the moment, and have not noticed a difference at all in the two bullets. I use the same load and get the same results with the two.

Thanks for posting the link and asking the question, I am running low on bullets and was planning on ordering some this week. I clicked the link and the price is lower than anywhere with the Hornady's in stock, I just ordered 500 of them.

Chinny33 · July 2, 2014, 04:28 PM

thats a really good price.

I recently purchased a lot of 6000 Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT-W/C for $496 (with shipping). Thats about $0.0826 per bullet.

Those X-Treme bullets you posted are $0.08 per bullet, which is great.

I just have personal running track record with my Hornadys. I use them for everything in 3-gun and shoot them up to 500yds.

TRDFurgesson · March 10, 2015, 02:58 PM

Had to resurrect this one as a warning to precision shooters...

Got 500 of these because of the price. My pet 8208 XBR load that produces sub MOA results with Remington 55gr FMJ (16" BCM AR) is what I started with. Using this target and 5 shot groups, I was unable to tell which 5 was shots corresponded with which aiming point. Group sizes at 100 yards were 7-8"!!!!!

These bullets won't group in my BCM BFH M4! They are only good for short range tactical shooting. IMO

On a good note I love their plated pistol bullets.

Nathan · March 10, 2015, 07:25 PM

OMG! I hope that doesn't hold true in my rifle! I bought 2000 to try!

TRDFurgesson · March 10, 2015, 08:18 PM

Sorry, I hope they shoot better for you. Maybe I got a bad batch (ordered end of May last year)... I considered calling them and asking if i could the return the 450 I had left from my load trials... I just used the 450 I had left for "indoor range ammo"

tangolima · March 10, 2015, 11:43 PM

Retracted

TRDFurgesson · March 11, 2015, 12:51 AM

The 55gr .224" bullets that extreme sells are jacketed bullets. I have tried plated hard cast 55gr .224" pills from a local vendor (FFF here in OH) and they performed better, but some came apart and make interesting spiral designs on my targets.

tangolima · March 11, 2015, 02:05 AM

Oops. They are jacketed indeed. I stand corrected. My previous comments are irrelevant.

-TL

jetinteriorguy · March 11, 2015, 05:11 AM

What load are you using with these bullets, powder and primer?

TRDFurgesson · March 11, 2015, 05:48 AM

Charge is slightly under the maximum recommended per Hodgdon's website.
Powder is IMR 8208 XBR as I stated in my first post.
Primer is CCI 400.
COAL is 2.235"
Once fired LC 5.56, chamber formed, neck sized, and trimmed to 1.750"

This load yields .65" 5 shot groups at 100 yards using Remington 55g FMJ projectiles out of a 16" chrome lined 1/7 twist BCM BFH barrel on the sled.

8208 XBR does even better with the SMK 77gr... half MOA up near max charge per Hodgdons website

Gadawg88 · March 11, 2015, 09:35 AM

I would suggest working up a load for those specific bullets and further testing before condemning them.

TRDFurgesson · March 11, 2015, 10:29 AM

scroll and read my first post that load was a starting point.

Gadawg88 · March 11, 2015, 11:43 AM

Gotcha. That wasn't clear from the original post.

BumbleBug · March 11, 2015, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRDFurgesson

Hands down worst 55gr bullet I have ever loaded

I'd be interesting if you gave a buddy 10 bullets from the same batch & see his results.

Just a thought...

...bug

TRDFurgesson · March 11, 2015, 05:23 PM

After trying 10 rnds at my pet load of 25.1gr, I loaded 10 each at 23.0, 23.5, 24.0, and 24.5, I couldn't get a group under 5 moa... at that point I reconfirmed my 25.1 with 55g SGKs I had = or < 1 moa. Ive found those game kings are great little bullets. this was all at 100yds. This left me with 450 out of the 500 which I loaded over 23.0gr of CFE 223 for "shoot house" ammo. Ive got about 300 rounds left. I did also try it in three other AR's I have, another BCM, a Spikes Elite, and a Black Hole 16" carbine length P3 (incredibly accurate barrel). I really thought it was something I did but the sub par results are consistent in all my rifles. All of these rifles have been proven to shoot sub MOA on the sled with a good load.

sawdustdad · March 11, 2015, 07:33 PM

I've been shooting the xtreme .224 55g FMJ bullets for 9 months, probably 500 rounds so far. Never occurred to me to try to get highly accurate with them. I would be using match bullets for that. The Xtreme bullets plink fine. They are sub-beer can at 100 yards, I can say that much about them.

TRDFurgesson · March 11, 2015, 07:55 PM

agreed

Machineguntony · March 11, 2015, 09:59 PM

I've shot about 20,000 of the xtreme .223 bullets in the last year. They're best for plinking. When shot for accuracy, they're not very accurate, but when shot in full auto, they're good because they're cheap, although not the cheapest unless they are on sale/promotion.

The math I have is 7.6c per projectile after shipping (no tax because I am out of state from the seller).

Here's an annoyance with these bullets. When ordering, tell the shipper to send you boxes of 1000. I ordered 100,000 of these bullets when they were on sale. On the right of this pic are the 1000 count boxes. They shipped 40 of these boxes. Then I was expecting 60 more. Instead, I got the big boxes that you see in the right photo, one of which i opened. The big boxes had 10,000 bullets each, which makes for a pain with storage and moving around. Also, I don't know if packing that large a number of bullets in one box causes the bullets to deform, as the weight of the bullets must have a deforming effect on the bullets nose and shape (not really an issue for me, since I don't shoot for MOA accuracy, but might be for others). Tell them you want the small 1000 count boxes.

June 30, 2014, 01:43 PM	#1
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,322	Xtreme .224" 5.56mm 55gr FMJ Bullets...Opinions? Looked like a good bulk deal, so I'm in for trying them. Any opinions on these? Bullet Link

June 30, 2014, 11:28 PM	#4
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	Decent price. Jim __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

July 1, 2014, 10:56 AM	#5
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	when i buy bullets, i use extreme pretty much exclusively, i sometimes use grafs for brand name stuff extreme always has what i need in stock and they ship to your door in a couple days __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

July 1, 2014, 12:25 PM	#6
Jay24bal Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 735	I have used them before, and they are great for plinking loads. I generally order from Xtreme or the Hornady 55 FMJ w/ cannelure, depending on what is cheaper at the moment, and have not noticed a difference at all in the two bullets. I use the same load and get the same results with the two. Thanks for posting the link and asking the question, I am running low on bullets and was planning on ordering some this week. I clicked the link and the price is lower than anywhere with the Hornady's in stock, I just ordered 500 of them. __________________ I like guns. Once Fired Brass, Top quality, Fast shipping, Best prices. http://300AacBrass.com/ -10% Coupon use code " Jay24bal "

July 2, 2014, 04:28 PM	#7
Chinny33 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 248	good price thats a really good price. I recently purchased a lot of 6000 Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT-W/C for $496 (with shipping). Thats about $0.0826 per bullet. Those X-Treme bullets you posted are $0.08 per bullet, which is great. I just have personal running track record with my Hornadys. I use them for everything in 3-gun and shoot them up to 500yds. __________________ PLAN PLAN PLAN A prudent man forsees evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished Proverbs 27:12

June 30, 2014, 04:41 PM	#2
Gadawg88 Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 241	I use them and like them for plinking/fun at the range ammo. I find them comparable to the Hornady fmjbt 55gn. Of the two, I order whichever is cheapest at the time.

June 30, 2014, 10:08 PM	#3
StripesDude Member Join Date: June 29, 2014 Posts: 88	I buy their 9mm and 45 and both work well. Same price as many lead bullets.

March 10, 2015, 02:58 PM	#8
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	Hands down worst 55gr bullet I have ever loaded Had to resurrect this one as a warning to precision shooters... Got 500 of these because of the price. My pet 8208 XBR load that produces sub MOA results with Remington 55gr FMJ (16" BCM AR) is what I started with. Using this target and 5 shot groups, I was unable to tell which 5 was shots corresponded with which aiming point. Group sizes at 100 yards were 7-8"!!!!! These bullets won't group in my BCM BFH M4! They are only good for short range tactical shooting. IMO On a good note I love their plated pistol bullets. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will. Last edited by TRDFurgesson; March 11, 2015 at 06:46 PM.

March 10, 2015, 07:25 PM	#9
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,322	OMG! I hope that doesn't hold true in my rifle! I bought 2000 to try!

March 10, 2015, 08:18 PM	#10
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	Sorry, I hope they shoot better for you. Maybe I got a bad batch (ordered end of May last year)... I considered calling them and asking if i could the return the 450 I had left from my load trials... I just used the 450 I had left for "indoor range ammo" __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

March 10, 2015, 11:43 PM	#11
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,808	Retracted Last edited by tangolima; March 11, 2015 at 08:12 AM.

March 11, 2015, 12:51 AM	#12
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	Yo, Delta Sierra The 55gr .224" bullets that extreme sells are jacketed bullets. I have tried plated hard cast 55gr .224" pills from a local vendor (FFF here in OH) and they performed better, but some came apart and make interesting spiral designs on my targets. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will. Last edited by TRDFurgesson; March 11, 2015 at 01:09 AM.

March 11, 2015, 02:05 AM	#13
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,808	Oops. They are jacketed indeed. I stand corrected. My previous comments are irrelevant. -TL Last edited by tangolima; March 11, 2015 at 02:12 AM.

March 11, 2015, 05:11 AM	#14
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,168	What load are you using with these bullets, powder and primer?

March 11, 2015, 05:48 AM	#15
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	if you must know... Charge is slightly under the maximum recommended per Hodgdon's website. Powder is IMR 8208 XBR as I stated in my first post. Primer is CCI 400. COAL is 2.235" Once fired LC 5.56, chamber formed, neck sized, and trimmed to 1.750" This load yields .65" 5 shot groups at 100 yards using Remington 55g FMJ projectiles out of a 16" chrome lined 1/7 twist BCM BFH barrel on the sled. 8208 XBR does even better with the SMK 77gr... half MOA up near max charge per Hodgdons website __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

March 11, 2015, 09:35 AM	#16
Gadawg88 Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 241	I would suggest working up a load for those specific bullets and further testing before condemning them.

March 11, 2015, 10:29 AM	#17
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	:) scroll and read my first post that load was a starting point. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will. Last edited by TRDFurgesson; March 11, 2015 at 10:36 AM.

March 11, 2015, 11:43 AM	#18
Gadawg88 Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 241	Gotcha. That wasn't clear from the original post.

March 11, 2015, 05:23 PM	#20
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	After trying 10 rnds at my pet load of 25.1gr, I loaded 10 each at 23.0, 23.5, 24.0, and 24.5, I couldn't get a group under 5 moa... at that point I reconfirmed my 25.1 with 55g SGKs I had = or < 1 moa. Ive found those game kings are great little bullets. this was all at 100yds. This left me with 450 out of the 500 which I loaded over 23.0gr of CFE 223 for "shoot house" ammo. Ive got about 300 rounds left. I did also try it in three other AR's I have, another BCM, a Spikes Elite, and a Black Hole 16" carbine length P3 (incredibly accurate barrel). I really thought it was something I did but the sub par results are consistent in all my rifles. All of these rifles have been proven to shoot sub MOA on the sled with a good load. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will. Last edited by TRDFurgesson; March 11, 2015 at 06:56 PM.

March 11, 2015, 07:33 PM	#21
sawdustdad Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 484	I've been shooting the xtreme .224 55g FMJ bullets for 9 months, probably 500 rounds so far. Never occurred to me to try to get highly accurate with them. I would be using match bullets for that. The Xtreme bullets plink fine. They are sub-beer can at 100 yards, I can say that much about them.

March 11, 2015, 07:55 PM	#22
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	agreed __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

March 11, 2015, 09:59 PM	#23
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	I've shot about 20,000 of the xtreme .223 bullets in the last year. They're best for plinking. When shot for accuracy, they're not very accurate, but when shot in full auto, they're good because they're cheap, although not the cheapest unless they are on sale/promotion. The math I have is 7.6c per projectile after shipping (no tax because I am out of state from the seller). Here's an annoyance with these bullets. When ordering, tell the shipper to send you boxes of 1000. I ordered 100,000 of these bullets when they were on sale. On the right of this pic are the 1000 count boxes. They shipped 40 of these boxes. Then I was expecting 60 more. Instead, I got the big boxes that you see in the right photo, one of which i opened. The big boxes had 10,000 bullets each, which makes for a pain with storage and moving around. Also, I don't know if packing that large a number of bullets in one box causes the bullets to deform, as the weight of the bullets must have a deforming effect on the bullets nose and shape (not really an issue for me, since I don't shoot for MOA accuracy, but might be for others). Tell them you want the small 1000 count boxes. __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x Last edited by Machineguntony; March 11, 2015 at 10:05 PM.

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