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Old September 9, 2017, 01:56 PM   #76
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Just a little coyote to show the size of the Mini14 lol.
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Old September 9, 2017, 02:22 PM   #77
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The name. Where on earth did it come from?
It is a MINIaturized M-14 action (albeit one with a fair amount of changes to reduce manufacturing costs).
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Old September 9, 2017, 02:51 PM   #78
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It is a MINIaturized M-14 action (albeit one with a fair amount of changes to reduce manufacturing costs).
Not to mention being apparently intended to reduce accuracy to about one-tenth of what a real M14/M1A is capable of. Puleeese! LOL

Get an AR. You can thank me later.

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Old September 9, 2017, 03:21 PM   #79
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Back in the early 80's I got my Mini 14 with a factory folding stock. Loved that rifle. Accuracy was horrible. I honed the trigger and sear nice and smooth, lightened the trigger pull, mounted a scope, and worked up my handloads and it was a nice sub 2 MOA rifle all day long after that. Then when they came out with the Mini 30, same thing without the folding stock, did the same accurizing routine with the same results. I killed many deer with that rifle, all running shots under 200 yds in open country no problem. Never needed more than what the five round mag held. I've always regretted selling these two rifles, but I now have two excellent AR's in both calibers and they'll never leave me. If I could get a new Mini 30 for under $600.00 I'd get one in a heartbeat, but no way for $800.00.
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Old September 9, 2017, 04:03 PM   #80
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Get an AR. You can thank me later.
There ya go. Thats the answer to every rifle question. Wanna shoot rats? Get an AR. Wanna shoot moose? Get and AR. Wanna shoot elephants? Get an AR. Just get an AR. Just get an AR. Just get an AR.

Is anyone besides me sick of hearing about ARs?
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Old September 9, 2017, 04:32 PM   #81
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Yes, I'm sick of hearing about ARs and I own several now.

Here's a group I used to post in Mini14 threads. I'll come clean and say I walked off the hundred meters, so it could be a few feet difference, more or less. Hornaday V-max 55gr... about the same with 55gr or less any premium varmint ammunition.




The complete 5rd mag, lol
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Old September 9, 2017, 04:33 PM   #82
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What can you do? The AR is the rifle of every wannabe out there.
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Old September 9, 2017, 04:44 PM   #83
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Already got an AR. Got more than one. My Uncle issued me more than one over the long period that I worked for him.

I reckon that I could be one of "These AR people ...", too.

I still love my Mini-14. Mine's accurate and reliable. It's a great iron-sighted carbine. When that's what I want or need, I will always grab my Mini-14 even though I have an M-4.
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Old September 9, 2017, 05:10 PM   #84
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Probably the best answer of all.

Thats some good shootin' rickyrick. Never sell a gun that shoots that well.
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Old September 9, 2017, 05:11 PM   #85
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Nice target rickyrick. What optic did you have on the gun? My picture shows a Red Dot but I have since swapped it out for an older Burris Signature fixed 6X scope.
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Old September 9, 2017, 05:26 PM   #86
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Not to mention being apparently intended to reduce accuracy to about one-tenth of what a real M14/M1A is capable of. Puleeese! LOL

Get an AR. You can thank me later.
As you said "Puleeese!"
A: Do you have any actual personal experience shooting either a M1a/M14 or a Mini?
And B: Would you like to put your money where your mouth is?
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Old September 9, 2017, 05:49 PM   #87
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It is a bushnell 3-9 x 40... cheapest optic I have now, its still on the rifle. I am a little lucky, because I can still get the bolt out with the scope still mounted. I hear that some people can't, which would be a disadvantage I could see.
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Old September 9, 2017, 06:25 PM   #88
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* * * As you said "Puleeese!"
A: Do you have any actual personal experience shooting either a M1a/M14 or a Mini?
Sure do, with M1 Garands and S.A. M1As, to included the Nat'l Match events at Camp Perry and oodles of local club SR & Vintage matches. I have more Old-School trigger time than you are old.

On the Minis? Seriously, dudenal?

Couple of older ones I shot years back were inaccurate junk.

Nowadays, the newer ones are maybe less inaccurate, but they're still overpriced (not including the pricey proprietary magazines), as compared to the less pricey and way more accurate "upscale" ARs.

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Any time sweetie.
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Old September 9, 2017, 06:44 PM   #89
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I'll get me a Mini on order and you order you a M1a out of the box with Winchester white box 100 yards, if your groups aren't 1/10th the size of mine I keep both rifles, if you can you keep both.
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Old September 9, 2017, 06:46 PM   #90
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For left handed shooters, the Mini is GTG out of the box. Low end ARs are right handed firearms or aftermarket money has to be spent.
I'm a lefty. AR's are GTG as well. I will admit that I always make that first shot with a righty AR a little tentatively, waiting to see whether the brass clips my right ear or flies farther out. Never a problem with the mini-14's I've shot, since all the brass ends up three states away.
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Old September 9, 2017, 06:48 PM   #91
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Original stock, gotta take newer pictures lol




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Old September 9, 2017, 07:31 PM   #92
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Why?

Because they are garbage! Look up mini-14 kabooms and you'll find out. I have personally seen two let go, one in my brothers face and the other in a friend's. If someone gave me one, I would unload it and then beat them with it. At least as a club it has some kind of use, until it breaks!
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Old September 9, 2017, 08:40 PM   #93
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The stainless Mini 14 I owned was also incredibly inaccurate, shooting a larger group at 50yds than the M1 Carbine I sold to buy it could do at 100yds.
A friend bought a recent production Mini with the current heavier barrel. At my rifle club, where we tried it out, I was easily outshooting the Mini at 100yds with my 5.45 Saiga, and I would estimate the Mini's groups were twice what I get with my homemade AR Carbine that was built stock using random parts and a used Bushmaster upper.
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Old September 9, 2017, 08:51 PM   #94
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They are garbage... and testament to that is the fact that nearing two million have been produced and sold since it was introduced 44 years ago in a total of five different calibers...possibly more when counting those produced for sale in and to foreign countries.
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Old September 9, 2017, 08:58 PM   #95
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I love Mini-14 vs. AR15 threads. It's a good thing we all live many states away from each other or we might be tempted to prove how well our rifle of choice works.

But to be more serious both rifles work for their intended purpose. I am glad I have the option to own both. Different guns for different jobs.
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Old September 9, 2017, 09:20 PM   #96
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Is anyone besides me sick of hearing about ARs?
Maybe not to the same extent as you but yeh, it gets pretty tiresome.
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Old September 9, 2017, 09:28 PM   #97
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Thanks Targa. I like the ONE AR I own but it is not the answer to every scenario that requires a rifle. Matter of fact for me it is almost the last choice when it comes to hunting, HD or target practice.

IF there is ever another run on semi auto rifles it will be the first one on the chopping block. My mini will be buried with me.
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Old September 9, 2017, 09:50 PM   #98
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I have one AR that I am probably going to sell to buy a mini. I just find the mini's more appealing.
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Old September 10, 2017, 08:49 AM   #99
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The name. Where on earth did it come from?
It's patterned after the US Military's M14 only in the .223. Very similar action, very similar looK.

Herei's my M1A (civilian semi-auto version of the M14 I had in the Army) any my Mini-14. They are very similar in look, design, and operation.



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Sounds like you haven't handled a Mini 14 Mr. Pond.
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In fact I've onlyever seen one through the glorious medium of laptop monitors.
That's obvious by your questions.
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Old September 10, 2017, 10:45 AM   #100
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COSteve, I love the look of your mini. I might have to do one like that, but probably in a Mini 30. Better start saving my money now.
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