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Nighttime varmint hunting? You could have a gen II or better night scope for the price. Anyone have a scope with an objective bigger than 50mm?
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And it's a Diavari, not Divari - their mistake, not yours. I do fail to understand why a 34mm tube and this scope are "ideal for magnum rifles". The larger objective with heavier glass actually means more momentum under recoil and thus more stress on the body/tube - more prone to damage/failure. It's actually more ideal for a medium- or light-recoiling range gun ATN makes an 80mm scope - ridiculously overpriced. I have a 60mm scope on a .243 - it's for fun - it helps newbies too - newbs have a difficult time with eye alignment & blackout - this helps to make their first scoped rifle experience positive. |
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At some point the benefits from a large scope start to become negated by the side effects. The rise above bore axis and weight are the primary disadvantages, but I'll admit those are problems for hunters, not paper punchers typically.
Leupold has made improvements with their new line of large objective scopes (VX-L - I think). I really like the large objective for dusk/dawn hunting, but I think 72mm is a bit excessive. JMO, but I am interested in hearing other perspectives.
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If I had a .50 cal Rifle and wanted to really reach out, I might buy one...
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I admit I have a slight case of GCSS (Giant Cheap Scope Syndrone), for my fun range guns - I'm refraining from opening a new thread on this subject until I've taken photos of groups with the rifle/scope combos, proving that they can perform, which I will do. This is the scope I have on a 26" rem sendero bbl / mauser 98 hybrid in .243:
http://binoculars.com/products/barsk...cal-45759.html It actually seems to be a lot of scope for $300. Side focus. 30mm tube. 60mm objective. Mono-body construction. Fully multi-coated. I.R. Mil-dot. Comes with flip-up caps & sushade. I let you know after I've wrung it out. |
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I love the review it got from a purchaser:
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Getting back to the matter at hand, a 70mm scope is going to be VERY heavy. I have a pair of 11x80 binoculars for astronomy and double-duty for spotting at the range, but only when mounted on a camera tripod. They're too heavy for me to hand-hold. I should think a 50mm scope objective would be enough. |
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Generally as power goes up, the exit pupil shrinks to 2-3mm at the max power. For this scope, it looks like you can still get an 8mm exit pupil at 12x or a little above.
The 34mm tube increases strength but also increases overall erector assembly travel, which means you get more clicks of elevation before it stops.
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12X with a 72mm ojective will give you a 6mm exit pupil.
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Woops, you're right.
That's still 44% more than I get from a 3-12x50mm S&B.
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Mine's not the ATN - it's the Barska linked to above in post #5 - haven't had it long enough to really evaluate it yet.....
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My first-ever scope was a Weaver K2.5. Later on I went to a K4. I horse-traded into a Vari-X II 3x9, and ever after was pretty happy. Back about ten years ago, from curiosity, I got a Simmons 44Mag; 3x10x44. It works okay, but doesn't do anything for me that the 3x9 didn't.
So by and large I'm uninterested in "bigger" or "better" than the old Vari-X II. My basic limit is 500 yards. I don't shoot long-range targets or benchrest competition. Seems to me that's the arena for very-high magnification and large glass. , Art |
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Prairie dog hunting in low light?
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