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February 23, 2020, 09:15 PM | #26 |
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posts 23 and 26.
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February 24, 2020, 04:33 PM | #29 |
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when I lived in NoVa all it took is one yard sign and I started asking questions. Sheriff, city counsel, county commission, mayor, dog catcher, school board..... there's no reason for folks to be bar stool complainers.
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I lived in Northern Virginia for several years before I moved back to the sticks. You have no clue of the difference between the different worlds of Virginia. Where I live, we have very few signs and spotty cell phone and internet service. It's not unusual to see very few signs anywhere and that is a reason we don't know the candidates or who they are to even look them up on the internet. My congressman covers the entire end of the state and it is probably over 200 miles from one end to the other and it borders WV, TN, NC and KY. Our local TV and newspapers are in or on the Tennessee border so our news coverage is mostly about Tennessee. We once got Virginia news from stations and newspapers in Roanoke, Va. but the newspaper stopped delivering on this end of the state and the cable and satellite for TV is not allowed to carry then by law (it changed several years ago). Other than Virginia laws, tags and legal documents, we have nothing in common with the rest of the state.
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February 25, 2020, 12:21 PM | #33 |
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I left NoVa in 2004. I remember well asking Bernie at Virginia Arms how many days until I could buy another gun.
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February 25, 2020, 01:08 PM | #34 | |
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For those of us currently living in VA, there are many more (direct and indirect) gun control bills which are very much alive. Some are so absurd, you have to ask where or how they come up with them. Our battles will be on many fronts now. For those outside of VA, watch out. This disease is spreading! Last edited by jrinne0430; February 25, 2020 at 01:15 PM. |
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February 25, 2020, 03:33 PM | #36 |
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well duh. if its southern its clearly not western, middle, or eastern. but that's a different state than Va. anyway.
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February 25, 2020, 05:42 PM | #37 |
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Below is a status update from VCDL.
Status of gun bills in the Senate on Monday, February 24 The Senate Judiciary committee met on Monday. One victory: HB 1288 (takes away gun rights for misdemeanors) was passed by for the year. Most of the other bills were modified to tone them down slightly, and then passed out of committee. All Democrats on the committee voted wrong on every bill, except HB 1288 (Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, and Morrissey voted with Republicans) and HB 9 (Senator Petersen voted with Republicans). Republicans voted correctly on everything. The bills are now headed to the Senate Floor, where they can be modified again and voted on in a few days. Here is the status of the bills that were considered (Senator's names in red voted wrong): H.B. 2 Patron: Plum Universal Background Check was conformed to the Senate version, which applies only to bonafide sale and not transfers. It passed out of the committee on a 9 to 5 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Chafin--5. - H.B. 9 Patron: Bourne Must report lost/stolen firearm within 24 hours after discovering loss. Squeaked out on a 8 to 7 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--8. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin, Petersen--7. - H.B. 264 Patron: Lopez Eliminates online training for CHP and was modified to continue allowing NRA instructors to teach. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 421 Patron: Price Allows localities to pass their own gun control, but was modified to narrow the focus of where guns could be controlled. However, some new locations were added to what locations could be controlled (recreation and community centers). So government can turn areas it controls into "gun free" shooting galleries, with with no requirement to even provide extra security. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 674 Patron: Sullivan Red Flag law, modified to be similar to the Senate version, but with weaker protections than the Senate version. This bill is still horrendous for our civil rights. Government is not held liable for errors or omissions in stripping you of your firearms, nor are they responsible if your guns, in their possession, get lost of damaged. If this bill isn't tyrannical, I don't know what is. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 812 Patron: Ward One Handgun a Month, modified to add an exception for CHP holders. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 1004 Patron: Mullin Permanent protective orders take way right to keep and bear arms while in force. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 1080 Patron: Hope Restricts even further who can have a firearm on K-12 school property. Passed out of committee by a 9 to 5 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--5. - H.B. 1083 Patron: Hayes Person who leaves a loaded firearm "recklessly" where someone under the age of 18 can have access, could be charged with a Class 6 FELONY. Modified in committee to lower the age back to 14 years-old and reduced the penalty from a Class 6 felony to a Class 1 misdemeanor (up from a Class 3 misdemeanor in current law). Passed out of committee on a 9 to 6 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Lucas, Deeds, Petersen, Surovell, McClellan, Boysko, Morrissey--9. NAYS--Norment, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin--6. - H.B. 1288 Patron: Murphy Takes away gun rights for misdemeanor stalking, sexual battery, hate crime, or domestic violence. This bill was carried over for the year (dead) by a 12 to 3 vote. YEAS--Edwards, Saslaw, Norment, Lucas, Obenshain, McDougle, Stuart, Stanley, Chafin, Deeds, Petersen, Morrissey--12. NAYS--Surovell, McClellan, Boysko--3. |
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Hint 01: The topic of discussion in this thread is Virginia HB 961.
Hint 02: Check your sarcasm at the door.
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