What states/cities do not recognize C&R?

HankC1 · January 5, 2016, 12:15 PM

Is there a list of states and cities do not recognize C&R and all firearms have to go thru regular FFL? Don't want to ship a C&R firearm to individual C&R holder, who may not know their own law, and get in trouble! I gather Oregon, CA, Washington, NJ, any other?

emcon5 · January 5, 2016, 05:25 PM

CA is legal for long guns, provided they also have a state issued Certificate of Eligibility. Handguns have to go to an 01 FFL.

kilimanjaro · January 5, 2016, 06:12 PM

Washington is a grey area, seems the I594 law is not enforceable by the state. So our C&R FFLs are invalid according to the new law, but in practice it seems business as usual. I still wouldn't want to be the test case.

James K · January 5, 2016, 08:38 PM

Maryland's new law exempts C&R guns (as defined by BATFE) from the requirement that a purchaser hold a Handgun Qualification License. But the state does not recognize the C&R FFL.

Jim

DennisCA · January 6, 2016, 01:43 PM

emcon5-"CA is legal for long guns, provided they also have a state issued Certificate of Eligibility. Handguns have to go to an 01 FFL."

Correct - Also after you buy the long gun you have to send a form and $19.00to CA DOJ

I love this state (CA) I really do

(I'll love it more when I retire in a few years and leave this blanking state!)

emcon5 · January 6, 2016, 02:20 PM

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Correct - Also after you buy the long gun you have to send a form and $19.00to CA DOJ
I love this state (CA) I really do
(I'll love it more when I retire in a few years and leave this blanking state!)

Right, but that is the buyer's problem, as the seller, he doesn't care about that. As long as there is a 03 FFL and COE he is in compliance with CA and therefore Federal law.

The other option for Californian's that live close enough to America, it to have it shipped to a 01 FFL in Nevada. California's asinine transfer laws do not apply when the resident is beyond the CA frontier. Before I moved, I bought a C&R Pistol this way. Had the wholesaler send it to a FFL in Reno, then picked it up via FFL to FFL transfer with my 03 FFL, and sent in the registration form and tax when I took it back to CA.

The only caveat to that is to make sure the gun itself is CA legal, no assault weapons or high capacity magazines.

2ndsojourn · January 6, 2016, 02:50 PM

NJ doesn't recognize C&R for (at least) handguns. If it's an antique flintlock handgun, it's a handgun. And don't get caught with it without a pistol purchase permit (unless you moved here with one).

Don't pass GO. Don't collect $200. Go directly to jail.

I don't know about long guns. Maybe someone else can chime in.

Vt.birdhunter · January 7, 2016, 10:41 AM

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NJ doesn't recognize C&R for (at least) handguns

Same with NY. Does not matter how old it is, a handgun is a handgun and requires separate licensing.

Screwball · January 7, 2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndsojourn

I don't know about long guns. Maybe someone else can chime in.

You can't have long guns shipped to your home within NJ if you have a C&R. Still have to go through a FFL. Even CMP, which allows rifle sales to be shipped to most homes is not allowed in NJ. There is a spot to input your FFL's info when you order from them.

Makes it pointless, unless you buy enough that a C&R discount at a retailer is worth it.

OcelotZ3 · January 9, 2016, 09:42 PM

Oregon used to be fine for C&R's but now for incoming transfers everything seems to need to go to an FFL due to SB941. Bastards.

Gaucho Gringo · January 17, 2016, 01:01 AM

This is the reason I finally gave up my C&R. It is not good anywhere on the west coast. Wish I could afford to move to Idaho but I can't so I guess I won't be buying anymore guns. I have enough to cover my needs but I guess my wants will just be wishful dreams. Just glad I don''t have too many more years to put up with this bovine waste.

January 5, 2016, 12:15 PM	#1
HankC1 Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 531	What states/cities do not recognize C&R? Is there a list of states and cities do not recognize C&R and all firearms have to go thru regular FFL? Don't want to ship a C&R firearm to individual C&R holder, who may not know their own law, and get in trouble! I gather Oregon, CA, Washington, NJ, any other?

January 17, 2016, 01:01 AM	#11
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	This is the reason I finally gave up my C&R. It is not good anywhere on the west coast. Wish I could afford to move to Idaho but I can't so I guess I won't be buying anymore guns. I have enough to cover my needs but I guess my wants will just be wishful dreams. Just glad I don''t have too many more years to put up with this bovine waste. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8

January 5, 2016, 05:25 PM	#2
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	CA is legal for long guns, provided they also have a state issued Certificate of Eligibility. Handguns have to go to an 01 FFL.

January 5, 2016, 06:12 PM	#3
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Washington is a grey area, seems the I594 law is not enforceable by the state. So our C&R FFLs are invalid according to the new law, but in practice it seems business as usual. I still wouldn't want to be the test case.

January 5, 2016, 08:38 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Maryland's new law exempts C&R guns (as defined by BATFE) from the requirement that a purchaser hold a Handgun Qualification License. But the state does not recognize the C&R FFL. Jim

January 6, 2016, 01:43 PM	#5
DennisCA Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2012 Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA) Posts: 451	emcon5-"CA is legal for long guns, provided they also have a state issued Certificate of Eligibility. Handguns have to go to an 01 FFL." Correct - Also after you buy the long gun you have to send a form and $19.00to CA DOJ I love this state (CA) I really do (I'll love it more when I retire in a few years and leave this blanking state!)

January 6, 2016, 02:50 PM	#7
2ndsojourn Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,416	NJ doesn't recognize C&R for (at least) handguns. If it's an antique flintlock handgun, it's a handgun. And don't get caught with it without a pistol purchase permit (unless you moved here with one). Don't pass GO. Don't collect $200. Go directly to jail. I don't know about long guns. Maybe someone else can chime in.

January 9, 2016, 09:42 PM	#10
OcelotZ3 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 229	Oregon used to be fine for C&R's but now for incoming transfers everything seems to need to go to an FFL due to SB941. Bastards.