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Old August 7, 2021, 01:57 PM   #1
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Remington Rolling Block Baby Carbine

Bought an old (but in Very Good condition) RRB Baby Carbine 44-40 from 1892 at a local auction, for 450 bucks.

As soon as I receive it, I will upload some more pictures and perform a shooting test with both black powder and some cowboy action ammo.
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Old August 7, 2021, 06:14 PM   #2
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looks good, i hope the bore is good.
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Old August 7, 2021, 06:47 PM   #3
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I hope it, too. They told me it is in good condition, being a former army gun it could be good or really bad. I think there's no middle point there...
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Old August 8, 2021, 11:22 AM   #4
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I always thought these looked oddly proportioned with the big action, short barrel, and barrel band so far back.
But an original? Good catch!
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Old August 8, 2021, 01:41 PM   #5
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I think it is a little bulky for an anemic caliber like the 44wcf. Many of this carbines were modified by the army arsenal to chamber something like a 444 Marlin, I don't know if it is the case, but if so, and the bore is good, I suppose it would shot almost 60 to 65 grains of Holly Black into 444 brass.
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Old August 8, 2021, 02:43 PM   #6
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if original it would be a antigue and need no paper work here.
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Old August 8, 2021, 02:48 PM   #7
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Neither here in Uruguay.
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Old August 8, 2021, 05:13 PM   #8
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Oh, that may explain post #5.
The US Army made no use of .44-40 and not a lot of Rolling Blocks.
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Old August 8, 2021, 08:23 PM   #9
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Agree, and as far as I know, the Uruguayan army was the only one that adopted the Baby carbines in 44-40, and more than half of the production came here.
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Old August 9, 2021, 06:42 AM   #10
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Oh man... so jealous...

I've not seen one for sale here in the US for years, and most of those have been obsolete rimfire cartridges.
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i think the small rollers were available in the states in several calibers, no 1-1/2 sporting rifle 1888-1897 and a light baby carbine 1892-1902( pre 1898 antique).
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Old August 9, 2021, 08:37 AM   #12
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And if you want to shoot the type, Pedersoli makes a repro.
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The 1 1/2s were made in a bunch of rim and centerfire cartridges. The .22 rimfires were the smallest, the .44-40s were the largest.

Pretty sure that .32 Long and .38 Long rimfires were standard chamberings, but I've never see a complete list.
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Old August 9, 2021, 12:38 PM   #14
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I suppose I will enjoy it as a shooter, as I usually do with my 43 spanish carbine, which is in very good bore condition. By the way, I remember I paid 150 bucks for it, a few years ago...
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Finally I went to the shooting range to test it. Not very good groups at 25 meters, mainly because of its heavy trigger pull. Almost 6 inches groups at mentioned distance.

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Finally I went to the shooting range to test it. Not very good groups at 25 meters, mainly because of its heavy trigger pull. Almost 6 inches groups at mentioned distance.

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Today I was working on its leaf mainspring. After filing and polishing, I obtained a better trigger pull force.

Anyway, I suppose that if I want to lighten it a little bit more, I should have to change it with a new one instead of working the original, considering these one is almost 130 years old.


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That cleaned up really nicely.

6 inch groups sounds like more than just trigger pull. How hard are your bullets? I've heard, and seen, that harder bullets just don't do very well in older guns originally designed for blackpowder cartridges, for some reason.

Don't know if it's the rifling twist, depth, or overall geometry, but I've seen a couple of cases where dropping to a softer lead bullet with softer lubricants really helped close up the groups.
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Old January 7, 2022, 10:46 AM   #18
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Well, finally tested the carbine again, after performing some work on the mainspring, and the relation between sear and hammer. Now it groups much better, and the action is smoother than before.

Below you can see a 6 shots group at 25 meters, into almost 1 in (2.54 cms).

Not bad for an almost 140 yo gun!

By the way, and last but not least, I discovered what the serial number of this carbine is...# 100! Below a picture of the left side of the tang where it can be seen.

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As I understand it, Rolling Blocks were "batch numbered." You have no. 100 of that particular contract, not the 100th made.
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As I understand it, Rolling Blocks were "batch numbered." You have no. 100 of that particular contract, not the 100th made.
Many thanks for the clarification, didn't know it...



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