Most politically incorrect shotgun?

bastiat · March 16, 2001, 05:54 PM

What would you consider to be the most politically incorrect, currently produced shotgun? I don't mean shotguns that qualify as AOW, but still meet the 'legal' requirements of barrel and overall length? It doesn't have to be especially 'dangerous'. It just has to look like something that diane feinstein wants to ban solely based on the look of it.

Tom B · March 16, 2001, 07:39 PM

Well if you don't count the SPAS then a Rem 870 with top folding stock - sidesaddle shell holder - mag ext - rifle sights - flame decals coming out of receiver front. She only hates them because she can't put one in her purse!

dZ · March 16, 2001, 08:28 PM

the new nestard is pretty extreme
the SPAS is the frankenstien of shotguns

AR-10 · March 16, 2001, 09:05 PM

Flame Decals!

I knew there was something my HD 870 was missing,I just couldn't put my finger on it.

Lightsped · March 17, 2001, 12:00 AM

Most politically incorrect shotgun????

How about this one? I think this is also one of the coolest shotguns out there. I know it would be painful to shoot, but still, it is a awesome piece.....

http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

PJR · March 17, 2001, 07:25 AM

This is my nomination. Not very practical but definitely politically incorrect.

http://www.denkins.com/blaster.htm

Destructo6 · March 17, 2001, 02:23 PM

The SPAS is a good vote. So is that "Master Blaster" StreetSweeper/Mac10 combo.

How about the USAS?

Apeach · March 17, 2001, 11:32 PM

Whoooooooah. I think that Master Blaster gun wins hands down. Both of those things are illegal. But it looks like a fun toy.

salvo · March 18, 2001, 12:22 AM

Mossberg 590A1, 9 shot, ghost ring sites, bayo lug, speed feed stock, right out of the box.
Hang a boyonet on it and watch Diane Feinstein squeel.

Dave McC · March 18, 2001, 08:37 AM

Folks, while these are some good choices, alack and alas, you're incorrect.

The MOST Politically Incorrect shotgun is ANY shotgun held, possessed, fired, operated, etc, by a free, law abiding and responsible human being.

The scary looking shotguns,and other weposn of course, get the attention, but the basic facts is that aware, ARMED and responsible people have the odd idea that they are responsible for their lives and for determining their own destiny.

Those that believe they have the right and duty to control other folks' lives(for their own good,of course) find this abhorrent.

To them, it matters little whether it's an ugly black Loudenboomer SP, a bolt action SS 410, or Grandpop's LC Smith grouse gun. Held by those uninclined to tolerate tyranny disguised as benevolence(for the children),all tools for resistance are evil, and those who fail to conform to Groupthink are also.

Kernel · March 18, 2001, 09:59 PM

Most Politically Incorrect? I'd say the honors go to the USMC's new Benelli M4. -- Kernel

magnum_force · March 18, 2001, 10:49 PM

The Benelli M4S90 is a work of art. Benelli told me that they will not be available untill 2002. Anyone know what the price will be?

LIProgun · March 19, 2001, 09:50 AM

I have to second PJR's nomination. There aren't many shotguns more un-PC than the Striker/Street Sweeper, even without the popgun underneath.

Noah1234 · March 20, 2001, 10:22 AM

The USAS-12, surely enough to make any PC'er choke just looking at it!

http://www.ramo.com/usas.htm

hksigwalther · March 20, 2001, 06:55 PM

I think bastiat is asking for a shotgun that is currently imported or domestically manufactured that a law abiding citizen can purchase.

I don't think low mag capacity SPAS-12 are currently being imported so I would say a low mag cap pistol gripped M1S90 or M3S90 "look" to be the most PIC (although they are OK to buy). If you get the M1 with removable chokes, you can put on the M1 Practical's factory muzzle brake or an aftermarket muzzle brake on it to make it look more menacing. The standard stock guns just don't look too "dangerous". I don't think the average citizen will be able to buy the M4 in the configuration as pictured above.

Lightsped · March 20, 2001, 09:23 PM

Again, I must nominate this gun for the most politically INcorrect gun. Gosh, I think I really need one of these.....

By the way, it is the Serbu Super Shorty 12 guage. 3shot 6.5 inch barrel. Isn't she a beauty???

ajacobs · March 20, 2001, 11:33 PM

the atf has a ad in shotgun news this last issue saying you only have until the end of may to register your street sweepers as distructive devices as that is what they have been reclasified as. What a bunch of pc garbage.

magnum_force · March 21, 2001, 01:35 AM

Does anyone here have a Serbu Super Shorty or have shot one? Is the muzzle flash and recoil manageable?

point308 · March 23, 2001, 12:25 PM

My SPAS 15 is pretty politically incorrect, even more so when I get a scope fitted to it. I got some funny look at a clay shooting ground once... the owner and I were shooting slugs at fluorescent clay targets placed on the backstop. But... I would cast my vote for the USAS12 in full auto with 20 rnd drum mag. Kick a$$!

magnum_force · March 24, 2001, 03:26 AM

point308, do you live in the UK? I thought the SPAS 15 and 12 was illegal in the U.S.

LawDog · March 24, 2001, 03:56 AM

Is Pancor still making the Jackhammer? Bullpup, gas-operated cassette-fed full-auto 12 gauge should give Diane Fineswine fits.

LawDog

point308 · March 26, 2001, 03:43 AM

Magnum_force, Yes, I do. It cost the equivalent of 950 US dollars, new.

March 19, 2001, 09:50 AM	#13
LIProgun Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2000 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 489	I have to second PJR's nomination. There aren't many shotguns more un-PC than the Striker/Street Sweeper, even without the popgun underneath. __________________ MOLON LABE. - Leonidas of Sparta, 480 B.C.

March 20, 2001, 10:22 AM	#14
Noah1234 Member Join Date: January 9, 2001 Posts: 40	How come nobody mentioned this one? The USAS-12, surely enough to make any PC'er choke just looking at it! http://www.ramo.com/usas.htm

March 20, 2001, 06:55 PM	#15
hksigwalther Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1998 Location: NE OH, USA Posts: 3,198	I think bastiat is asking for a shotgun that is currently imported or domestically manufactured that a law abiding citizen can purchase. I don't think low mag capacity SPAS-12 are currently being imported so I would say a low mag cap pistol gripped M1S90 or M3S90 "look" to be the most PIC (although they are OK to buy). If you get the M1 with removable chokes, you can put on the M1 Practical's factory muzzle brake or an aftermarket muzzle brake on it to make it look more menacing. The standard stock guns just don't look too "dangerous". I don't think the average citizen will be able to buy the M4 in the configuration as pictured above. __________________ - Ron V.

March 24, 2001, 03:56 AM	#21
LawDog Staff Emeritus Join Date: September 15, 1999 Location: Where am I going? Why am I in this handbasket? Posts: 4,194	Is Pancor still making the Jackhammer? Bullpup, gas-operated cassette-fed full-auto 12 gauge should give Diane Fineswine fits. LawDog __________________ "The Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer." --The 13th Warrior Bona na Croin The LawDog Files

March 16, 2001, 05:54 PM	#1
bastiat Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2001 Posts: 1,771	What would you consider to be the most politically incorrect, currently produced shotgun? I don't mean shotguns that qualify as AOW, but still meet the 'legal' requirements of barrel and overall length? It doesn't have to be especially 'dangerous'. It just has to look like something that diane feinstein wants to ban solely based on the look of it.

March 16, 2001, 07:39 PM	#2
Tom B Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 1999 Location: GA Posts: 1,836	Well if you don't count the SPAS then a Rem 870 with top folding stock - sidesaddle shell holder - mag ext - rifle sights - flame decals coming out of receiver front. She only hates them because she can't put one in her purse!

March 16, 2001, 08:28 PM	#3
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	the new nestard is pretty extreme the SPAS is the frankenstien of shotguns

March 16, 2001, 09:05 PM	#4
AR-10 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,182	Flame Decals! I knew there was something my HD 870 was missing,I just couldn't put my finger on it.

March 17, 2001, 12:00 AM	#5
Lightsped Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2000 Location: Kennesaw/Marietta, Georgia Posts: 810	Most politically incorrect shotgun???? How about this one? I think this is also one of the coolest shotguns out there. I know it would be painful to shoot, but still, it is a awesome piece..... http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

March 17, 2001, 07:25 AM	#6
PJR Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2000 Posts: 1,127	This is my nomination. Not very practical but definitely politically incorrect. http://www.denkins.com/blaster.htm

March 17, 2001, 02:23 PM	#7
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,000	The SPAS is a good vote. So is that "Master Blaster" StreetSweeper/Mac10 combo. How about the USAS?

March 17, 2001, 11:32 PM	#8
Apeach Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: The 'burbs of chicago Posts: 167	Whoooooooah. I think that Master Blaster gun wins hands down. Both of those things are illegal. But it looks like a fun toy.

March 18, 2001, 12:22 AM	#9
salvo Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2001 Posts: 140	Mossberg 590A1, 9 shot, ghost ring sites, bayo lug, speed feed stock, right out of the box. Hang a boyonet on it and watch Diane Feinstein squeel.

March 18, 2001, 08:37 AM	#10
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Folks, while these are some good choices, alack and alas, you're incorrect. The MOST Politically Incorrect shotgun is ANY shotgun held, possessed, fired, operated, etc, by a free, law abiding and responsible human being. The scary looking shotguns,and other weposn of course, get the attention, but the basic facts is that aware, ARMED and responsible people have the odd idea that they are responsible for their lives and for determining their own destiny. Those that believe they have the right and duty to control other folks' lives(for their own good,of course) find this abhorrent. To them, it matters little whether it's an ugly black Loudenboomer SP, a bolt action SS 410, or Grandpop's LC Smith grouse gun. Held by those uninclined to tolerate tyranny disguised as benevolence(for the children),all tools for resistance are evil, and those who fail to conform to Groupthink are also.

March 18, 2001, 09:59 PM	#11
Kernel Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 1999 Location: Madison, WI.... "78 Square Miles Surrounded by Reality" Posts: 923	Most Politically Incorrect? I'd say the honors go to the USMC's new Benelli M4. -- Kernel

March 18, 2001, 10:49 PM	#12
magnum_force Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2000 Posts: 185	The Benelli M4S90 is a work of art. Benelli told me that they will not be available untill 2002. Anyone know what the price will be?

March 20, 2001, 09:23 PM	#16
Lightsped Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2000 Location: Kennesaw/Marietta, Georgia Posts: 810	Again, I must nominate this gun for the most politically INcorrect gun. Gosh, I think I really need one of these..... By the way, it is the Serbu Super Shorty 12 guage. 3shot 6.5 inch barrel. Isn't she a beauty???

March 20, 2001, 11:33 PM	#17
ajacobs Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2000 Posts: 210	the atf has a ad in shotgun news this last issue saying you only have until the end of may to register your street sweepers as distructive devices as that is what they have been reclasified as. What a bunch of pc garbage.

March 21, 2001, 01:35 AM	#18
magnum_force Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2000 Posts: 185	Does anyone here have a Serbu Super Shorty or have shot one? Is the muzzle flash and recoil manageable?

March 23, 2001, 12:25 PM	#19
point308 Member Join Date: November 1, 1999 Posts: 37	My SPAS 15 is pretty politically incorrect, even more so when I get a scope fitted to it. I got some funny look at a clay shooting ground once... the owner and I were shooting slugs at fluorescent clay targets placed on the backstop. But... I would cast my vote for the USAS12 in full auto with 20 rnd drum mag. Kick a$$!

March 24, 2001, 03:26 AM	#20
magnum_force Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2000 Posts: 185	point308, do you live in the UK? I thought the SPAS 15 and 12 was illegal in the U.S.

March 26, 2001, 03:43 AM	#22
point308 Member Join Date: November 1, 1999 Posts: 37	Magnum_force, Yes, I do. It cost the equivalent of 950 US dollars, new.