why is hevi-shot popular and buffered lead is not???

Grandpatime · January 25, 2010, 01:25 PM

why is hevi-shot all the rage now?I know it produces tight patterns .But how much better can hevi-shot be than buffer+copperplated lead?

Magnum Mike · January 25, 2010, 01:39 PM

You cant legally use lead for waterfowl

Grandpatime · January 25, 2010, 01:54 PM

im talking about for turkey hunting

Magnum Mike · January 25, 2010, 02:15 PM

For turkey I still use lead. In some refuges and wild life areas use can only use non toxic shot I'm guessing.

johnbt · January 25, 2010, 02:55 PM

"But how much better can hevi-shot be than buffer+copperplated lead?"

My experience with them is from duck and goose hunting. Hevi-Shot is denser than lead. That means more range(smaller, heavier pellet travels farther than lead), more pellets in a one-ounce (or 2 oz.) payload and more hitting power per pellet at the target.

I'll tell what will blow your mind, look up Tungsten Super Shot, they have a site. It's so dense, even compared to Hevi-Shot, that they only sell #5 and #7 shot and show on their site how it will go through a Mallard at 70 yards or more.

Sure it's expensive. Somebody once told me that Woody Allen said duck hunting was about like standing in a cold shower and tearing up twenty dollar bills.

John

P.S. - Whether any of it makes any difference depends on the situation and the shooter. I know turkeys aren't very hard to kill. My father shot 2 large turkeys out of the air with 2 fast shots many decades ago. They were dead when they hit the ground. He was shooting common old high brass #6 in a 20 ga. Model 12.

bamaranger · January 26, 2010, 02:18 AM

Heavi-shot/ tung based shot is popular for turkeys (ducks too) because it adds range and penetration to your shotshell/gun.

The space metals are harder and denser than lead. Because they are harder, they do not deform easily (if at all) upon firing, and allegedly fly truer, thus denser patterns.

Since they are heavier than lead, when started out at the same velocity, they retain velocity better at range, increasing penetration.

Guys that are shooting them tell me they add 10-15 yds range onto their shotguns performance. Maybe more.

I have not made the switch, since I'm doing just fine under 45 yds w/ lead.

January 25, 2010, 01:25 PM	#1
Grandpatime Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2010 Posts: 121	why is hevi-shot popular and buffered lead is not??? why is hevi-shot all the rage now?I know it produces tight patterns .But how much better can hevi-shot be than buffer+copperplated lead?

January 25, 2010, 01:39 PM	#2
Magnum Mike Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2007 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 347	You cant legally use lead for waterfowl

January 25, 2010, 01:54 PM	#3
Grandpatime Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2010 Posts: 121	im talking about for turkey hunting

January 25, 2010, 02:15 PM	#4
Magnum Mike Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2007 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 347	For turkey I still use lead. In some refuges and wild life areas use can only use non toxic shot I'm guessing.

January 25, 2010, 02:55 PM	#5
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	"But how much better can hevi-shot be than buffer+copperplated lead?" My experience with them is from duck and goose hunting. Hevi-Shot is denser than lead. That means more range(smaller, heavier pellet travels farther than lead), more pellets in a one-ounce (or 2 oz.) payload and more hitting power per pellet at the target. I'll tell what will blow your mind, look up Tungsten Super Shot, they have a site. It's so dense, even compared to Hevi-Shot, that they only sell #5 and #7 shot and show on their site how it will go through a Mallard at 70 yards or more. Sure it's expensive. Somebody once told me that Woody Allen said duck hunting was about like standing in a cold shower and tearing up twenty dollar bills. John P.S. - Whether any of it makes any difference depends on the situation and the shooter. I know turkeys aren't very hard to kill. My father shot 2 large turkeys out of the air with 2 fast shots many decades ago. They were dead when they hit the ground. He was shooting common old high brass #6 in a 20 ga. Model 12.

January 26, 2010, 02:18 AM	#6
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,308	Heavi-shot/ tung based shot is popular for turkeys (ducks too) because it adds range and penetration to your shotshell/gun. The space metals are harder and denser than lead. Because they are harder, they do not deform easily (if at all) upon firing, and allegedly fly truer, thus denser patterns. Since they are heavier than lead, when started out at the same velocity, they retain velocity better at range, increasing penetration. Guys that are shooting them tell me they add 10-15 yds range onto their shotguns performance. Maybe more. I have not made the switch, since I'm doing just fine under 45 yds w/ lead.