Looking for data on .40 Berry's plated and Unique

hgmeyer · January 26, 2015, 07:39 PM

Just what I said in the title for 180 gr for 40 S&W

sawdustdad · January 26, 2015, 10:36 PM

Berry's web site says:

You can use any published load data for a jacketed or lead bullet as long as it is the same weight bullet. Berry's Manufacturing does not research or publish load data, but any of the load data books or the powder manufacturers' website should have that information for you.

We recommend using hard cast load data or start with mid-range jacketed data. Make sure data is below 1250fps unless you are using a Thick-Plated bullet that we list a higher max velocity for like the 9mm 124gr HBRN-TP that can be shot to 1500fps in open class guns like a .38 Super. Keep in mind that since our plated bullet has the same pressure curve as a hard cast bullet, the published cast data will be very close to what you will get with our plated bullets. If you use Jacketed data with our plated bullets you can get from 5% - 8% increase in velocity using that data.

I did see some Berry's Bullets listed in AA load data. There is a downloadable file with AA load data. (western powders)

http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-con...ec_1-23-14.pdf

454PB · January 29, 2015, 10:17 PM

From my chronograph note book:

180 gr. TC plated bullet (These were bought loose packed and no manufacturer identity, but they appear to be Berrys)

6.3 grs. Unique, CCI 500 primers

Avg.velocity at 15' (6 shots) 966 fps.

Nick_C_S · January 30, 2015, 12:54 AM

I load and shoot a lot of Berry's 180s (#99958) for a couple 10mm Auto's that I have (Glocks 20 & 29); but not for 40 S&W. I drive them to about 1100 fps (or a little more) without plating degradation problems. So in a 40, you can probably push them as hard as just about any published data - by first doing your proper load workups for safety, of course.

Speer #14 has Unique from 6.0gn to 6.7gn.
Sierra 5th has Unique from 4.6gn to 6.3gn.
Hornady 9th has no data for 180/Unique.

Regarding Sierra: They tend to show a very broad range, starting at very minimal loadings. So if I were referencing Sierra, I'd probably start around 5.6gns or so.

9mmSkeeter · January 31, 2015, 03:42 AM

When I loaded 40 with it I believe I used 6.4 grains.

January 26, 2015, 10:36 PM	#2
sawdustdad Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 484	Berry's web site says: You can use any published load data for a jacketed or lead bullet as long as it is the same weight bullet. Berry's Manufacturing does not research or publish load data, but any of the load data books or the powder manufacturers' website should have that information for you. We recommend using hard cast load data or start with mid-range jacketed data. Make sure data is below 1250fps unless you are using a Thick-Plated bullet that we list a higher max velocity for like the 9mm 124gr HBRN-TP that can be shot to 1500fps in open class guns like a .38 Super. Keep in mind that since our plated bullet has the same pressure curve as a hard cast bullet, the published cast data will be very close to what you will get with our plated bullets. If you use Jacketed data with our plated bullets you can get from 5% - 8% increase in velocity using that data. I did see some Berry's Bullets listed in AA load data. There is a downloadable file with AA load data. (western powders) http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-con...ec_1-23-14.pdf Last edited by sawdustdad; January 26, 2015 at 10:42 PM.

January 30, 2015, 12:54 AM	#4
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,523	I load and shoot a lot of Berry's 180s (#99958) for a couple 10mm Auto's that I have (Glocks 20 & 29); but not for 40 S&W. I drive them to about 1100 fps (or a little more) without plating degradation problems. So in a 40, you can probably push them as hard as just about any published data - by first doing your proper load workups for safety, of course. Speer #14 has Unique from 6.0gn to 6.7gn. Sierra 5th has Unique from 4.6gn to 6.3gn. Hornady 9th has no data for 180/Unique. Regarding Sierra: They tend to show a very broad range, starting at very minimal loadings. So if I were referencing Sierra, I'd probably start around 5.6gns or so. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

January 31, 2015, 03:42 AM	#5
9mmSkeeter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2014 Location: South Dakota Posts: 205	When I loaded 40 with it I believe I used 6.4 grains. __________________ I kind of like weaponry.

January 26, 2015, 07:39 PM	#1
hgmeyer Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 147	Looking for data on .40 Berry's plated and Unique Just what I said in the title for 180 gr for 40 S&W

January 29, 2015, 10:17 PM	#3
454PB Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Location: Helena, Mt. Posts: 122	From my chronograph note book: 180 gr. TC plated bullet (These were bought loose packed and no manufacturer identity, but they appear to be Berrys) 6.3 grs. Unique, CCI 500 primers Avg.velocity at 15' (6 shots) 966 fps.