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Old October 11, 2017, 08:34 PM   #1
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Cooper C&B revolver

Why any of the replica makers never sold a Cooper C&B?

As far as I know it was a good and reliable design of the civil war era...
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Old October 11, 2017, 08:35 PM   #2
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Not to mention the english Adams because obviously it wasn't american...
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Old October 11, 2017, 10:34 PM   #3
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Probably for two reasons. 1- it's a double action. 2- because not many people have ever heard of it. The Manhattan would be a better choice and even came in three barrel lengths. About all they would have to do to reproduce it is add 6 more cylinder notches to a 51 navy. But it's still a relatively unknown revolver.
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Old October 12, 2017, 05:45 AM   #4
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I was suggesting it because of its double action...but didn't think that such advantage in terms of operation is also a disadvantage in terms of marketing...since the vast majority of the sales for this guns is CAS and double action is not allowed there...
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Old October 12, 2017, 08:25 PM   #5
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Every so often I see a post that reads something like "They should make a reproduction of ________ cap and ball revolver, they would sell millions of them." ("They" being, of course some repro company.)

So why don't "they"? For one thing, "they" are selling all the Colt and Remington copies they can make - why mess with success? And why get involved in yet another line of guns, parts and the other stuff for what has to be a very limited market? How many Cooper copies would be sold every year? 20? 500? If anyone can show the makers that the figure will be a half million, the gun will appear as if by magic! Guaranteed.

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Old October 12, 2017, 08:40 PM   #6
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The versions that could use the current parts seem easy enough without much cost for tooling.

I'm not familiar with this Cooper's model. A 5 shot .36 without a rebated frame. Guessing nothing current would truly work.
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Old October 12, 2017, 10:21 PM   #7
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The Colt style revolvers had the rear sight on the hammer and a double action makes it pretty hard to aim accurately.
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Old October 12, 2017, 11:22 PM   #8
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Wow.

A double action Colt style cap and ball?

Now I really have seen it all. Seems there were many makers and designs of cap and balls, not just real Colts and Remys like are made now.
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Old October 13, 2017, 09:07 AM   #9
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Now I really have seen it all. Seems there were many makers and designs of cap and balls, not just real Colts and Remys like are made now.
Model12, there were a lot of single actions but only a few double actions. Check out the Tranter. A two trigger revolver that could be fired double action by pulling both triggers at once and even came in a .50 caliber. https://www.justcollecting.com/misce...nter-revolvers
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Old October 13, 2017, 01:12 PM   #10
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I have a .36 Cooper "Navy" and it shoots pretty well. The DA system is copied from British revolvers and is smooth enough, though it stacks. Not as good as the English DA revolvers of the era, but not bad.

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Old October 13, 2017, 01:30 PM   #11
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Lucky you!

I would love to have an original Adams but it is almost impossible to find one here in South America...

I thought about the Cooper because I supposed that being so similar (at least in some major parts) to a Colt, maybe it could be easier to manufacture a replica of it than an Adams...
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Old October 14, 2017, 09:16 PM   #12
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There are 4 Cooper Revolvers on Gunbroker right now.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/707950914
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/706432544
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/708412337
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/706930917

Kind of interesting.
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