Torque only for a muzzle device

Shadow9mm · April 22, 2023, 07:13 PM

So I just got a YHM Phantom flash hider for my AK. I did not see any detents in the picture, but it only had 1 angle so I figured it was in a spot I could not see. I received the flash hider and no detents at all. Packaging said to go to the website for installation instructions. I found them, in their own section, no link on the product page. Apparently I am supposed to have a qualified gunsmith torque it, no crush washer, to 15-25 ft-lb.

I besides the issue of an ak specific device not having detents, torque only on a muzzle device seems like a bad idea? Am I incorrect in thinking this or is just torqueing it on ok?

MC 1911 · April 22, 2023, 07:37 PM

Torquing is ok but I prefer the detent. There should be enough metal for you to just make a small notch for detent pin.

**44 AMP** · April 24, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Am I incorrect in thinking this or is just torqueing it on ok?

Depends on what the design calls for. Generally, what ever the maker's instructions are, done correctly will work and be reasonable durable.

Washer or not, I would not advise exceeding the given torque specs. Bad things can happen.

tangolima · April 24, 2023, 03:45 AM

I have a few ARs that come with similar muzzle devices. They are symmetrical, so don't need be timed. No crush washer or anything of the kind. I suppose they are simply torqued on. No problem at all.

-TL

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FrankenMauser · April 24, 2023, 10:21 AM

Torque is fine. You don't need a crush washer.
If you're worried about it, use some thread locker.

If you don't have a wrench that fits, stick a screwdriver through opposite ports (near threaded end, not danger end) and crank it down to "about there..."

April 22, 2023, 07:13 PM	#1
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,974	Torque only for a muzzle device So I just got a YHM Phantom flash hider for my AK. I did not see any detents in the picture, but it only had 1 angle so I figured it was in a spot I could not see. I received the flash hider and no detents at all. Packaging said to go to the website for installation instructions. I found them, in their own section, no link on the product page. Apparently I am supposed to have a qualified gunsmith torque it, no crush washer, to 15-25 ft-lb. I besides the issue of an ak specific device not having detents, torque only on a muzzle device seems like a bad idea? Am I incorrect in thinking this or is just torqueing it on ok? __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.

April 24, 2023, 10:21 AM	#5
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Torque is fine. You don't need a crush washer. If you're worried about it, use some thread locker. If you don't have a wrench that fits, stick a screwdriver through opposite ports (near threaded end, not danger end) and crank it down to "about there..." __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

April 22, 2023, 07:37 PM	#2
MC 1911 Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 373	Torquing is ok but I prefer the detent. There should be enough metal for you to just make a small notch for detent pin.

April 24, 2023, 03:45 AM	#4
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,825	I have a few ARs that come with similar muzzle devices. They are symmetrical, so don't need be timed. No crush washer or anything of the kind. I suppose they are simply torqued on. No problem at all. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk