Butch Cassidy's "Modified Winchester"?? - Page 2

FresnoVince · September 20, 2022, 08:59 PM

You make a good point, though Etta Place supposedly had excellent teeth, however she managed it.

Ricklin · September 24, 2022, 12:27 PM

There are a few back in those days. Good genetics really helps. Not a dentist, but make my living that way. White teeth are not natural, there are a very few but for the most part, lots O yellow and missing teeth was the norm.

Heck still is in a lot of places.

Jim Watson · September 24, 2022, 04:15 PM

Old pictures, Etta was right attractive. Most women of the day look pretty rough.

Hawg · September 24, 2022, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Watson

Old pictures, Etta was right attractive. Most women of the day look pretty rough.

There were a lot of attractive women in the old west. At least in their younger days.

FresnoVince · September 24, 2022, 10:44 PM

Here is a quick view at what she really looked like. I had her photo colorized and for the first time gave people an idea of how she really looked. In the process, I also discovered they were apparently really married as working on the photo brought out that she wears both a wedding and engagement ring. (Traditionally, it was thought they just lived together and the B&W images just looked like a single ring until I started with sepia, which changed the contrast and revealed two rings clearly.) It also revealed she had a ribbon on the top of her hair, and that--in an example of sentimentality--she incorrectly wears a gold necklace atop a scarf, which a woman would not normally do in the way she does. Clearly, the necklace had sentimental value and she wanted to show it off so she draped it over the scarf.

Unfortunately, she does not wear the bracelet I have that I believe was hers, but I believe she got that in 1904 during the World's Fair she attended

Hawg · September 24, 2022, 11:11 PM

Some people say her real name was Ann Bassett.

FresnoVince · September 25, 2022, 06:07 AM

That's true and they look a lot alike in THAT photo (not others) but Ann claimed she knew EP, not that she WAS EP, and the way she made up stories for attention, if the thought ever crossed her mind to equate herself w/EP, she would have shouted it from the housetops.

We also know her timeline, and she was known to be in Colorado at a time EP was known to be in Argentina so they cannot have been the same person. But I see how someone could compare the two photos

Hawg · February 18, 2023, 01:12 PM

Been awhile but I came across this and remembered this thread. A modified Whitney Kennedy said to have been found where they were killed along with some letters to Butch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnDzeLOlsE

September 24, 2022, 12:27 PM	#27
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 1,893	A very few There are a few back in those days. Good genetics really helps. Not a dentist, but make my living that way. White teeth are not natural, there are a very few but for the most part, lots O yellow and missing teeth was the norm. Heck still is in a lot of places. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

September 24, 2022, 10:44 PM	#30
FresnoVince Member Join Date: August 26, 2022 Posts: 16	Etta as in life Here is a quick view at what she really looked like. I had her photo colorized and for the first time gave people an idea of how she really looked. In the process, I also discovered they were apparently really married as working on the photo brought out that she wears both a wedding and engagement ring. (Traditionally, it was thought they just lived together and the B&W images just looked like a single ring until I started with sepia, which changed the contrast and revealed two rings clearly.) It also revealed she had a ribbon on the top of her hair, and that--in an example of sentimentality--she incorrectly wears a gold necklace atop a scarf, which a woman would not normally do in the way she does. Clearly, the necklace had sentimental value and she wanted to show it off so she draped it over the scarf. Unfortunately, she does not wear the bracelet I have that I believe was hers, but I believe she got that in 1904 during the World's Fair she attended Last edited by FresnoVince; September 24, 2022 at 10:49 PM.

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September 20, 2022, 08:59 PM	#26
FresnoVince Member Join Date: August 26, 2022 Posts: 16	You make a good point, though Etta Place supposedly had excellent teeth, however she managed it.

September 24, 2022, 04:15 PM	#28
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,300	Old pictures, Etta was right attractive. Most women of the day look pretty rough.

September 24, 2022, 11:11 PM	#31
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,082	Some people say her real name was Ann Bassett.

September 25, 2022, 06:07 AM	#32
FresnoVince Member Join Date: August 26, 2022 Posts: 16	That's true and they look a lot alike in THAT photo (not others) but Ann claimed she knew EP, not that she WAS EP, and the way she made up stories for attention, if the thought ever crossed her mind to equate herself w/EP, she would have shouted it from the housetops. We also know her timeline, and she was known to be in Colorado at a time EP was known to be in Argentina so they cannot have been the same person. But I see how someone could compare the two photos

February 18, 2023, 01:12 PM	#33
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,082	Been awhile but I came across this and remembered this thread. A modified Whitney Kennedy said to have been found where they were killed along with some letters to Butch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnDzeLOlsE