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November 12, 2008, 07:30 PM | #1 |
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Can I own a silenced pistol???
I have been kicking around the idea of putting a silencer on my Mk III 22/45. When started trying to find info on obtaining the proper license or permit to own a silenced weapon it's like a hit a wall. All I have found tells me I have to have a class 3 permit . I live in Dalton Ga. Is there anyone out there that may know what this type of permit requires. What I've heard is that it's a long and expensive process. How true is that?
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November 12, 2008, 07:51 PM | #2 |
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If not banned in your local area you sure can own a can... infact there is a company that makes an entire upper with integrated silencer for rugers...
The go from bang, bang, bang... to pip,pip,pip Brent |
November 12, 2008, 07:52 PM | #3 |
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There is no such thing as a "Class III permit".
You need to be an adult with a clean record, and live in a place where they are legal. The cost is $200 for the Tax Stamp and the cost of the suppressor itself. Usually the hardest part is getting the Chief LEO in your town/city to sign off on it. Even if s/he will not, you can still get around that by incorporating, but that's more time and money. Assuming you hit no snags, the timetable is about 3-6 months. Read this for good general info: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=199928 |
November 12, 2008, 08:26 PM | #4 |
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Whats an NFA Class 3 weapon
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November 12, 2008, 08:47 PM | #5 | |
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Machinegun, suppressor, Any Other Weapon, Short barreled shotgun, Short barreled rifle and/or Destructive Device.
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November 12, 2008, 08:51 PM | #6 |
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how would I go about creating a trust?
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November 12, 2008, 08:56 PM | #7 |
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A Living Trust is essentially a Will, so the best way is to contact an attorney. If you want to cut costs, you can use a para-legal or purchase Quicken Willmaker (software). You need to make sure that there are no mistakes in the creation or ATF will deny the transfer, so the best bet is a lawyer. Some of the benefits of this method are no CLEO signature needed and no fingerprints or photographs. As a result, it generally takes less time to process the transfer paperwork through ATF.
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November 12, 2008, 09:07 PM | #8 |
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Im sorry all this is greek to me. How can I obtain this permit by creating a living will
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November 12, 2008, 09:10 PM | #9 |
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A Trust, just like a corporation, can invest money and own property. Unlike a corporation, a Trust doesn't have to file financial reports and pay taxes on its assets. Your Trust purchases NFA items as an investment to make more money for your survivors.
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November 12, 2008, 09:12 PM | #10 |
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Sounds like you are thinking about doing what I did. Here is the result.
Not only is it hearing safe, but bulk ammo is subsonic out of the pistol length barrel, making it even quieter. Shooting it wet is better still. I went the individual route. The local CLEO signs off on all NFA paperwork. As for what suppressor to get, the AAC Prodigy is good. Any of the Tactical Innovations cans would work. Either a TAC-65 or a Stratus. Most people want a 22 RF can that can be taken apart since lead is deposited on the baffles since 22 RF is not jacketed. Not to mention that large amount of fouling that accumulates as well. As for material. Steel the the most durable, but also heavier and more expensive. Aluminum is cheaper, lighter, not quite as strong, and requires a bit more care since some cleaning agents can eat away the aluminum. Aluminum is more than up to the task for a 22 RF can so don't be scared away from it. My TAC-62 is aluminum and it's plenty durable. Removing the baffles for cleaning involves carefully hammering them out with a dowel.
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November 12, 2008, 09:15 PM | #11 |
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ohhhh... so that would add value to my estate by owning a silencer
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November 12, 2008, 09:17 PM | #12 |
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that looks about right... how much did set you back
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November 13, 2008, 12:02 AM | #13 |
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Google "NFA Suppressors" or go to the ATF site.
In layman's terms, You need to get the appropriate forms from the ATF, send in what that requires and $200, the ATF will do a background check, you will need your local chief LEO to sign off (I'm not sure of the order on that part). Once approved, the ATF will send you the stamp, and you can buy the suprressor. |
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Here are some rugers that don't bark...
But this one is the sweetest lookin' gal... Brent |
November 13, 2008, 06:57 PM | #15 |
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Get a hold of these guys and follow thier reccomendations. They will be familiar with whether or not the CLEO in your area routinely signs the forms, there is little reason to worry about Trusts and Corporations if you have not been rejected by the CLEO yet. Don't go back and forth with them playing million questions. Just open your wallet and spend money, plenty of time to learn the ins and outs off the web later.
http://www.politesocietyinc.com/ also goto my website http://myweb.cableone.net/uziforme/index.htm goto the links and NFA FAQ. Read all of that and you will understand the requirements much better and get all the simple questions answered at one sitting. Then follow links to manuf. and silencer talk websites to get into details further. |
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http://www.srtarms.com/legalities.htm http://www.advanced-armament.com/ownership.asp Here is one manufacturer's list of dealers -- there are a number in GA: http://www.gem-tech.com/dealer.html Here is a photo of a Ruger 22/45 with a Tactical Solutions Upper and a silencer. It is well worth the effort.
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November 16, 2008, 08:15 AM | #17 |
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How much more of a hassle is it if you want to build one? Do you have to submit proposed design, etc. with the other paperwork?
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Here is a good writeup on the process. The writeup is talking about an SBR, but it works the same with a suppressor. Link Quote:
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$425 for the suppressor, NFA tax included. $25 for photos and fingerprints. $225 for the used 22/45. $150 for the threading, remounting of the front sight, and blind thread protector. (Tornado Technologies, top notch work.) $? for shipping costs. Don't remember how much that was. $825 total, not including shipping
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