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November 18, 2009, 11:02 AM | #26 |
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What are you going to do with it?
I've got a Model 77 in .308 that is a great rifle. Strangely, though I've loaded for it for years, I've never bothered to measure the group size. It's a hunting rifle, not a target rifle.
If it's going to be a hunting rifle, I'd say buy it. I think too many folks get hung up on the "sub-moa" stuff for basic hunting rifles at normal ranges. |
November 18, 2009, 11:29 PM | #27 |
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I have a Ruger M77 MkII Hawkeye in .30-06. I get 1.5" groups with factory Federal 180gr Power Shoks. Personally, I love the Rugers. I think they have more character than some other bolt actions. My rifle is a sporter with a 22" barrel. It has the LC6 trigger that it came with from the factory. It is set around 5lbs with absolutely no creep. I think it is a fantastic trigger for hunting. I couldn't be happier with my rifle. It looked fantastic cradled in the 45" spread of a Canadian Moose.
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November 18, 2009, 11:56 PM | #28 |
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I have a MKII Hawkeye in .358 Win, and accuracy is not a problem with it. Two weeks ago I shot another 5/8" group at 100 yds, thats plenty good enough for me (also outshot my dad with his CZ in .416 Rigby, was a good day )
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January 7, 2012, 02:52 PM | #29 |
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I personally will never purchase another m77. I bought one new and it has never shot well. I have tried numerous different factory ammo and my best groups are 3-4 moa. This is completely unacceptable to me. I now use a Rem 700 which i consistently group sub-moa. It's likely i got unlucky, but i know at least some other people have the same issues. I'm surprised no one on here has anything bad to say about them. As far as the trigger goes that isn't much of a concern. The M77 trigger is one of the easiest ones to improve with a file and diamond stone. Mine is now a clean break at three pounds. Of course I would never recommend you do that, but you probably have the required skills. I personally wish I would have spent the extra money to buy either a Rem 700 or a Winchester Model 70, and will never make the same mistake.
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January 7, 2012, 04:06 PM | #30 |
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I've got two old Ruger 77s, both in .25-06. One is a fine shooter with 117 grain bullets and Reloder 22 powder. Groups under an inch are regular and expected. If the rifle shoots over an inch, the loose nut behind the stock isn't doing his part.
The second one is an unknown factor. I picked it up last week and it hasn't been to the range yet. Both of these rifles are tang-safety models and so far I've been very happy with them. I agree that the trigger could use some work. They manage to combine grit and creep with just a touch of overtravel. I might install a Timney on this newer rifle at some time in the future. |
January 7, 2012, 04:11 PM | #31 |
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I just got back from the range. In other threads I had put a Boyd's stock on my MkII Ruger .300 Win Mag. Here is the five shot group before I moved it to 1-1/4" high at 100 and corrected left and right to be centered. Not bad for a 20 year old rifle eh? Oh yeah. This was with cheapo factory Remington CoreLoks. No handloading by me.
I did buy a lighter trigger spring for it and it took me all of 60 seconds to put it in. Trigger is right at 4 lbs. now. Good enough for a hunting rifle. http://www.erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i22.html Last edited by warbirdlover; January 7, 2012 at 04:17 PM. |
January 7, 2012, 06:07 PM | #32 |
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Warbirdlover is right. Replacing the trigger spring took my pull from about 4.5 pounds down to 2 pounds. Cost me $10 at the gunsmith and it took him maybe 5 or 10 minutes, but most of that time was him looking for the correct spring. If I had know it was THAT simple, I'd have done it myself. As for the older Ruger 77's, the tang safety kind, those triggers will eventually need some work. I've got two of those and the triggers are fine now, with help from the local gunsmith. As for accuracy, all my Rugers shoot fine. The most recent buy, the Hawkeye in 223, just (about an hour ago) shot 4 Sierra 65 gr Gamekings into one ragged hole, with the 5th just outside the ragged hole. Center to center, measured the longest way, was 0.5 inches. Tomorrow I'm going to see what Nosler 40 gr Ballistic Tips will do, over AA2230 or H335.
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January 7, 2012, 08:49 PM | #34 |
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Doc I have acouple Ruger 77s one being a Hawkeye in 7mm-08 all weather. This is a standard weight hunting rifle, it shoots the 120, 130, and 140 gr bullets well under 1 MOA. From what I see at the range these rifles are very accurate. As for the triggers most are very heavy from the factory but they are an easy fix.
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January 7, 2012, 09:01 PM | #35 |
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Had one in .308 in the mid-late 90's. Wish I had never sold it.
It would easily do an inch at 100 yards with Core-Lokts and Winchester hunting ammo. Had a decent trigger too. I'd take a chance if the price is that good. It was a heck of a rifle for me. |
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I've got the 25-06 with about a 1000 rounds down the pipe & its still taking deer & hogs @ 300yds.& songdogs at 400 so I sure aint complaining.beats the fuzz out of throwing rocks.
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January 8, 2012, 12:33 PM | #39 |
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I have one of the little Ruger Frontier .308s and despite its extreemly short 16.5 inch barrel it is still very accurate. Less than two inches at 100 yards with factory ammo. I hunt deer with it and love it.
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December 15, 2018, 01:26 AM | #40 |
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Follow up shots
Because running whitetail deer can be hard to hit with a rifle I've had to on two occasions fire five shots with my M77 in rapid succession...never had the slightest problem with that bolt gun.
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December 15, 2018, 06:24 AM | #41 |
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Thread was started almost 13 years ago, been dormant for almost 7!!!
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December 15, 2018, 07:07 AM | #42 |
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Keep it alive! Ruger accuracy take 3,4,however many rebirths it has had. Mine is a 1.5” shooter roughly at 100 yds, but I cannot help, but think I can make it do better with technique and reloads!
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December 15, 2018, 08:54 AM | #43 |
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I've got a 77R in .243 bought new in '79 or '80, I can't recall which year, but I guess it did okay with Federal ammo at 200 giving me about 1 1/4"-1 1 1/2". I do remember it printed all over the place with Remington and Winchester ammo. I found it satisfactory for 220.00 it cost and would pay it again.
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December 15, 2018, 11:32 AM | #44 |
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I have a Mark II .270, bought in 1994. Not a tack driver but I bought it to hunt with. It will shoot everything I've ever tried in it, handloads and a couple factory loads, into 1-1/2 to 2 in at 100 yards in roughly the same place on the target. I did have a trigger job done on it when I bought it, it felt like a 27 lb trigger pull when I tried to shoot it in. (it was actually 7 lb.) A heck of a deer gun and it's purty.
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December 15, 2018, 03:19 PM | #45 |
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Mine will shoot 1" groups with several handloads. Stainless 223. But I did float it, glass bed it and do a real trigger job. Sporter barrel. 22"
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Start a new thread, fer cryin' out loud! Enough necrothreadia!
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