223 loads for son-in-laws' stocking stuffers

awaveritt · December 7, 2009, 04:01 PM

223 loads for stocking stuffers for son-in-laws
One son-in-law has AR 15 in 1:7 twist. The other has a Mini-14 in 1:9 twist.

What bullet would you suggest for me to handload (I have H335 or Benchmark powders) so I can stuff their stocking with range ammo this Christmas? Looking for an economical bullet that would function well in both rifles for informal plinking.

**Unclenick** · December 7, 2009, 04:16 PM

The 7" twist is for heavier target ammo. The only bullets that pop into mind as easily compatible with both the 7 and 9 and the slower of your two powders are the 77 grain Sierra MatchKings, but those are not economy bullets. Of course, if it's truly just plinking, overstabilizing something a bit light won't matter that much unless they go so fast they come apart from the excess spin. Perhaps the flat base 60 grain Hornady hollow point would be a good compromise?

zxd9 · December 7, 2009, 04:45 PM

Hornady 55gr FMJ in bulk are priced pretty well. If you want a step up from plinking ammo try the 55gr or 60gr Hornady VMax.

Scratch4x4 · December 7, 2009, 05:15 PM

I agree, a 60 grain VMax is a pretty great bullet for hunting most game, and atm, hornady prices are down. Check out Cabelas for some great deals on them. Id suggest a single bulk order, you get a lot more bang for your buck.

BTW, i think thats about the most thoughtful idea for a stocking stuffer i have ever heard of. Nice work!

QBall45 · December 7, 2009, 05:41 PM

Hornady 55gr fmj bulk. I use many differant powders. H335 & RL15 have shown the best accuracy for me. My best loads have been found at or very near the published Max loads. Work up to max carefully.

A wonderful stocking stuffer idea.

flashhole · December 7, 2009, 07:00 PM

http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/produ...02?productId=5

These are some nice bullets. I bought 500 and will buy more. The weight should do well in both guns. I recommend Varget or H-4895 or IMR 4895 powder.

bedlamite · December 7, 2009, 08:27 PM

1:9 might not stabilize a bullet larger than 69 gr.

http://www.grafs.com/product/260294

A_Gamehog · December 7, 2009, 09:35 PM

69 Grains work in both twists just fine...

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|281|727

The "Accuracy Load" in Sierra's book has the H-335 powder listed for 63 grain bullets

http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223ar.pdf

Never used H-335 others have said midrange weights for usage. With the fast twists

the 60-63 might be the best bullet weights.

CherokeeT · December 8, 2009, 10:04 PM

H335, Hornady bulk 55 JSP or FMJ. Same load with this bullet works great in my Mini14 and my 1/8 target AR.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · December 8, 2009, 10:28 PM

I guess it depends on how much you really like them....

December 7, 2009, 04:01 PM	#1
awaveritt Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 259	223 loads for son-in-laws' stocking stuffers 223 loads for stocking stuffers for son-in-laws One son-in-law has AR 15 in 1:7 twist. The other has a Mini-14 in 1:9 twist. What bullet would you suggest for me to handload (I have H335 or Benchmark powders) so I can stuff their stocking with range ammo this Christmas? Looking for an economical bullet that would function well in both rifles for informal plinking.

December 7, 2009, 04:16 PM	#2
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,654	The 7" twist is for heavier target ammo. The only bullets that pop into mind as easily compatible with both the 7 and 9 and the slower of your two powders are the 77 grain Sierra MatchKings, but those are not economy bullets. Of course, if it's truly just plinking, overstabilizing something a bit light won't matter that much unless they go so fast they come apart from the excess spin. Perhaps the flat base 60 grain Hornady hollow point would be a good compromise? __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle Last edited by Unclenick; December 7, 2009 at 07:24 PM.

December 7, 2009, 05:15 PM	#4
Scratch4x4 Junior Member Join Date: December 7, 2009 Location: Childress, TX Posts: 10	I agree, a 60 grain VMax is a pretty great bullet for hunting most game, and atm, hornady prices are down. Check out Cabelas for some great deals on them. Id suggest a single bulk order, you get a lot more bang for your buck. BTW, i think thats about the most thoughtful idea for a stocking stuffer i have ever heard of. Nice work! Last edited by Scratch4x4; December 7, 2009 at 05:16 PM. Reason: add to post

December 7, 2009, 07:00 PM	#6
flashhole Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2005 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 2,000	http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/produ...02?productId=5 These are some nice bullets. I bought 500 and will buy more. The weight should do well in both guns. I recommend Varget or H-4895 or IMR 4895 powder. __________________ ,,, stupidity comes to some people very easily. 8/22/2017 my wife in a discussion about Liberals. Are you ready for civil war?

December 7, 2009, 08:27 PM	#7
bedlamite Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2000 Location: WI Posts: 1,395	1:9 might not stabilize a bullet larger than 69 gr. http://www.grafs.com/product/260294 __________________ A plan is just a list of things that doesn't happen.

December 7, 2009, 04:45 PM	#3
zxd9 Member Join Date: November 9, 2006 Posts: 27	Hornady 55gr FMJ in bulk are priced pretty well. If you want a step up from plinking ammo try the 55gr or 60gr Hornady VMax.

December 7, 2009, 05:41 PM	#5
QBall45 Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2008 Location: South Central Minnesota Posts: 584	Hornady 55gr fmj bulk. I use many differant powders. H335 & RL15 have shown the best accuracy for me. My best loads have been found at or very near the published Max loads. Work up to max carefully. A wonderful stocking stuffer idea.

December 7, 2009, 09:35 PM	#8
A_Gamehog Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2009 Location: Central Oregun Posts: 563	You might like these also? 69 Grains work in both twists just fine... http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278\|281\|727 The "Accuracy Load" in Sierra's book has the H-335 powder listed for 63 grain bullets http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223ar.pdf Never used H-335 others have said midrange weights for usage. With the fast twists the 60-63 might be the best bullet weights. Last edited by A_Gamehog; December 8, 2009 at 01:14 PM.

December 8, 2009, 10:04 PM	#9
CherokeeT Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2008 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 273	H335, Hornady bulk 55 JSP or FMJ. Same load with this bullet works great in my Mini14 and my 1/8 target AR.

December 8, 2009, 10:28 PM	#10
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	I guess it depends on how much you really like them.... __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

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