winchester model 94 30-30 carrier problms.. HELP

jbulla1979 · October 9, 2009, 08:31 PM

i just ran across a model 94 winchester 30-30 the gun is in great condition other than the fact that it wont load a round. the action pulls the carrier up when it is pulled back but as soon as you start the lever action back up the carrier falls resulting in the round falling back down. does anyone have a clue?? I have disassembled the rifles lever action but cant see any problems. any help would be greatly appreciated

greensteelforge · October 9, 2009, 08:54 PM

Make sure you are fully rotating the lever forward. You may be missing one of the guide plates inside your receiver. The only other possibility here would be that you have overlooked a heavily worn lobe on the riser, a worn or broken channel intersection in the guide, or an improper replacement part. I have owned over a dozen M94's, and never seen a problem like this. I do know that there have been variations on the internals over the years, some of which have been dubious looking sheet metal, which looked like they could wear out just cycling the action too much. I would really recommend taking the gun to a good smith for a thorough look, you have one readily observable problem, and no idea what else the previous owner messed up.

jbulla1979 · October 9, 2009, 08:59 PM

thats kinda what i was thinking but i wasnt sure if maybe there was a spring missing. i know the carrier looks thin my other assumption was a lobe wore out on the carrier itself, but i wanted to get another opinion before i tore it completely apart

L_Killkenny · October 9, 2009, 09:06 PM

IIRC, the late 60's/early 70's 94's had a POS carrier that broke if you looked at it. Does yours fit the time frame?

LK

jbulla1979 · October 9, 2009, 09:09 PM

not sure about the time frame but the serial # is 329--- does that tell you anything ??

L_Killkenny · October 9, 2009, 09:17 PM

Check the pics at this: http://onesticky.levergunscommunity....nchesters.html

They have a pic of the bad "early" post 64 carrier and the better "late" post 64 carrier.

Hope that helps.

LK

jbulla1979 · October 9, 2009, 09:26 PM

thanks that def helps mine is post 64 i did notice that in those pic it showed a cast and a machined carrier and the one in this rifle is def. stamped maybe thats the problem ??

L_Killkenny · October 9, 2009, 10:03 PM

They show pics of both of them but I "think" the stamped one is the bad one. It actually says in a discription of the pics. If you do have a bad carrier you can buy a good cast one for it. The guys over at www.levergunscommunity.org can help.

LK

October 9, 2009, 08:31 PM	#1
jbulla1979 Junior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Posts: 4	winchester model 94 30-30 carrier problms.. HELP i just ran across a model 94 winchester 30-30 the gun is in great condition other than the fact that it wont load a round. the action pulls the carrier up when it is pulled back but as soon as you start the lever action back up the carrier falls resulting in the round falling back down. does anyone have a clue?? I have disassembled the rifles lever action but cant see any problems. any help would be greatly appreciated

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October 9, 2009, 08:54 PM	#2
greensteelforge Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Posts: 90	Make sure you are fully rotating the lever forward. You may be missing one of the guide plates inside your receiver. The only other possibility here would be that you have overlooked a heavily worn lobe on the riser, a worn or broken channel intersection in the guide, or an improper replacement part. I have owned over a dozen M94's, and never seen a problem like this. I do know that there have been variations on the internals over the years, some of which have been dubious looking sheet metal, which looked like they could wear out just cycling the action too much. I would really recommend taking the gun to a good smith for a thorough look, you have one readily observable problem, and no idea what else the previous owner messed up.

October 9, 2009, 08:59 PM	#3
jbulla1979 Junior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Posts: 4	thats kinda what i was thinking but i wasnt sure if maybe there was a spring missing. i know the carrier looks thin my other assumption was a lobe wore out on the carrier itself, but i wanted to get another opinion before i tore it completely apart

October 9, 2009, 09:06 PM	#4
L_Killkenny Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,676	IIRC, the late 60's/early 70's 94's had a POS carrier that broke if you looked at it. Does yours fit the time frame? LK

October 9, 2009, 09:09 PM	#5
jbulla1979 Junior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Posts: 4	not sure about the time frame but the serial # is 329--- does that tell you anything ??

October 9, 2009, 09:17 PM	#6
L_Killkenny Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,676	Check the pics at this: http://onesticky.levergunscommunity....nchesters.html They have a pic of the bad "early" post 64 carrier and the better "late" post 64 carrier. Hope that helps. LK

October 9, 2009, 09:26 PM	#7
jbulla1979 Junior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Posts: 4	thanks that def helps mine is post 64 i did notice that in those pic it showed a cast and a machined carrier and the one in this rifle is def. stamped maybe thats the problem ??

October 9, 2009, 10:03 PM	#8
L_Killkenny Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,676	They show pics of both of them but I "think" the stamped one is the bad one. It actually says in a discription of the pics. If you do have a bad carrier you can buy a good cast one for it. The guys over at www.levergunscommunity.org can help. LK