Norma 9MM 108gr MHP

jaytex1969 · February 1, 2024, 07:02 PM

I just bought a few boxes of this on deep discount.

Monolithic Hollow Point copper projectile.

Anyone have any first-hand experience with these?

Shadow9mm · February 2, 2024, 09:36 PM

First hand, no. Based on the testing/reviews I have seen online they do not meet minimum FBI penetration standards. Other than that they open fast and the open big. I will stick with my 124g HST.

44caliberkid · February 2, 2024, 11:46 PM

No first hand experience. The new American Handgunner has a test of the Girsan High Power and they used that ammo for part of it. It chronoed at 1113 fps and grouped 2.06 inches.

DaleA · February 3, 2024, 02:27 PM

Norma 9MM 108gr MHP.

I think we're looking at the same ads. I bought a couple boxes but haven't tried them out yet. If nothing else they'll be good for range practice if they don't jam and the ads were VERY emphatic that they don't jam...we'll see.

jaytex1969 · February 4, 2024, 02:50 PM

Thanks for the input, fellas.

Sharkbite · February 4, 2024, 10:30 PM

My issue with light for caliber bullets that expand rapidly is penetration. If i could guarantee a full on frontal shot on a lightly clad attacker, that did not have to go through an arm first….maybe.

But i dont get to pick the shot like in a hunting situation. My attacker may be on the other side of a car window with his arm between us.

I chose heavy for caliber bullets (230 in 45, 180 in 40, 147 in 9mm). If i get some expansion…good, but i want to get into that FBI depth standard first. Any expansion at those depths can only help.

This is speaking of PISTOL velocities. Rifles get more benefit from static shock imparted from velocities well in excess of pistols. A medium weight varmint bullet at rifle velocities is devastating to unarmored people of ill intent. ��

wild cat mccane · February 5, 2024, 03:30 PM

Norma test barrel is 6" long.

Should tell you much.

That said, the 115gr Barnes bullet is the only 115gr bullet Roberts gave the okay to.

I think that's why the 380 Federal DEEP works. It's a mix of more copper then spire point.

I do not believe you can do better than PDX, Gold Dot, Saber, and my favorite of HST. Critical Duty purposefully excluded. Anything else is looking to be creative to get what these consistently do well with expansion and penetration.

I do believe the HST Micro 150gr is the magical 9mm on the market and does it at under 1000fps from an at or <3" barrel.

JesseGDeluca · July 26, 2024, 01:52 AM

Used these bullets many times & it feeds and shoots well in my M&P. These bullets are good choice for specially urban areas where over penetration could be a problem. Expansion is fantastic.

Jack19 · March 9, 2025, 08:24 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XtITXd...cCByZXZpZXc%3D

Shadow9mm · March 10, 2025, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack19

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XtITXd...cCByZXZpZXc%3D

That about sums it up, I wouldn't trust my life to them

Shoots Left · March 10, 2025, 11:26 AM

If nothing else save a box or two for a few years down the road when they become a collector's item

February 1, 2024, 07:02 PM	#1
jaytex1969 Member Join Date: November 11, 2007 Posts: 45	Norma 9MM 108gr MHP I just bought a few boxes of this on deep discount. Monolithic Hollow Point copper projectile. Anyone have any first-hand experience with these?

February 2, 2024, 09:36 PM	#2
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 4,561	First hand, no. Based on the testing/reviews I have seen online they do not meet minimum FBI penetration standards. Other than that they open fast and the open big. I will stick with my 124g HST. __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.

February 5, 2024, 03:30 PM	#7
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,821	Norma test barrel is 6" long. Should tell you much. That said, the 115gr Barnes bullet is the only 115gr bullet Roberts gave the okay to. I think that's why the 380 Federal DEEP works. It's a mix of more copper then spire point. I do not believe you can do better than PDX, Gold Dot, Saber, and my favorite of HST. Critical Duty purposefully excluded. Anything else is looking to be creative to get what these consistently do well with expansion and penetration. I do believe the HST Micro 150gr is the magical 9mm on the market and does it at under 1000fps from an at or <3" barrel. __________________ My wife is a pulmonologist (respiratory Dr) and epidemiologist. If you have any questions on COVID, please reach out to me in PM. Last edited by wild cat mccane; February 5, 2024 at 03:35 PM.

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February 2, 2024, 11:46 PM	#3
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,257	No first hand experience. The new American Handgunner has a test of the Girsan High Power and they used that ammo for part of it. It chronoed at 1113 fps and grouped 2.06 inches.

February 3, 2024, 02:27 PM	#4
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,384	Norma 9MM 108gr MHP. I think we're looking at the same ads. I bought a couple boxes but haven't tried them out yet. If nothing else they'll be good for range practice if they don't jam and the ads were VERY emphatic that they don't jam...we'll see.

February 4, 2024, 02:50 PM	#5
jaytex1969 Member Join Date: November 11, 2007 Posts: 45	Thanks for the input, fellas.

February 4, 2024, 10:30 PM	#6
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,812	My issue with light for caliber bullets that expand rapidly is penetration. If i could guarantee a full on frontal shot on a lightly clad attacker, that did not have to go through an arm first….maybe. But i dont get to pick the shot like in a hunting situation. My attacker may be on the other side of a car window with his arm between us. I chose heavy for caliber bullets (230 in 45, 180 in 40, 147 in 9mm). If i get some expansion…good, but i want to get into that FBI depth standard first. Any expansion at those depths can only help. This is speaking of PISTOL velocities. Rifles get more benefit from static shock imparted from velocities well in excess of pistols. A medium weight varmint bullet at rifle velocities is devastating to unarmored people of ill intent. ��

July 26, 2024, 01:52 AM	#8
JesseGDeluca Junior Member Join Date: January 14, 2022 Posts: 4	Used these bullets many times & it feeds and shoots well in my M&P. These bullets are good choice for specially urban areas where over penetration could be a problem. Expansion is fantastic.

March 10, 2025, 11:26 AM	#11
Shoots Left Member Join Date: November 22, 2024 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 91	If nothing else save a box or two for a few years down the road when they become a collector's item