Help Identifying a Trapdoor Rifle

djandp · December 10, 2014, 11:42 AM

Can anyone help? Only identifying marks we know are ELG with a mark below it. Easy to find firearms that are similar but none that have this type of action

*Some pictures are 2MB-4MB so I posted mostly links - Can take higher quality marking photos or whatever if needed.

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mapsjanhere · December 10, 2014, 12:59 PM

The ELG in oval and the perron (the candlestick) mark identify it as a Belgian copy made in Liege.

PS.: The long lever is unusual, looks like it's a single-move opening and cocking lever. The original trapdoor design required a two-step process, first cocking the lock, then unlocking and opening the trapdoor

RJay · December 10, 2014, 11:09 PM

It is a Belgium copy of a Reilly Comblain, however, having typed that I have to admit that I am not that smart, this question was answered on another forum by deadin.

James K · December 10, 2014, 11:16 PM

It doesn't appear to be a copy of the U.S. trapdoor or even the same concept. It looks like the breechblock is jointed (like a Luger pistol) and that the lever raises the toggle in the middle and draws back the front part to load. Also, it is not clear whether the projection is a nipple or a firing pin, that is whether the gun is percussion cap fired or uses a fixed cartridge.

In any case, it is interesting and I don't think I have ever seen anything like it.

Jim

December 10, 2014, 11:42 AM	#1
djandp Junior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1	Help Identifying a Trapdoor Rifle Can anyone help? Only identifying marks we know are ELG with a mark below it. Easy to find firearms that are similar but none that have this type of action Some pictures are 2MB-4MB so I posted mostly links - Can take higher quality marking photos or whatever if needed. Picture 2 High Quality Picture 3 Picture 4 Picture 5 Picture 6 Picture 7 Last edited by djandp; December 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM.*

December 10, 2014, 12:59 PM	#2
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	The ELG in oval and the perron (the candlestick) mark identify it as a Belgian copy made in Liege. PS.: The long lever is unusual, looks like it's a single-move opening and cocking lever. The original trapdoor design required a two-step process, first cocking the lock, then unlocking and opening the trapdoor __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying. Last edited by mapsjanhere; December 10, 2014 at 01:22 PM.

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RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	It is a Belgium copy of a Reilly Comblain, however, having typed that I have to admit that I am not that smart, this question was answered on another forum by deadin. __________________ Ron James

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December 10, 2014, 11:16 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	It doesn't appear to be a copy of the U.S. trapdoor or even the same concept. It looks like the breechblock is jointed (like a Luger pistol) and that the lever raises the toggle in the middle and draws back the front part to load. Also, it is not clear whether the projection is a nipple or a firing pin, that is whether the gun is percussion cap fired or uses a fixed cartridge. In any case, it is interesting and I don't think I have ever seen anything like it. Jim